Hip-hop and rap style music is played at our young people in what is as surely an attack as a barrage of bullets. Rap producers have even stated that their key target audience is 14 year old white girls.
Today it has come to the attention of the Western Spring news team that a bold and controversial white-nationalist hip-hop track has been released by a US based group known variously as ‘Horus the Avenger’, ‘White Rabbit Radio’ and ‘The Mantra’.
Is this a highly original and creative project that will help to reach our lost youth with our important message or is it an ugly appeasement to everything we stand against? You decide…
Rasta Viking
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This song does not have any “umph” to it. The difference between White nationalist rap and real revolutionary music, is its only for your people to like. Blacks asians, and latinos cannot identify with this type of music.
On other hand Black Artist can make everyone identify with them. Blacks, asians, latinos, and whites, can all rock to the beat, understand and shar common ground on the song.
“Chase Those Crazy BaldHeads Out of Town” is a revolutionary song about chasing whites out of town, yet Whites, asians, hispanic, and blacks know the song word for word.
Or the Song ” NO WHITE GOD” Condeming which is listened to by the youth of all backgrounds.
black music is founded upon REAL STRUGGLE. Not something imaginary like white genocide. You guys should stick to headbanging rock music where you beat each other to a pulp in a mosh pit.
ChrisHurst
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“Rasta Viking” – I notice that you were unable to argue with the lyrics and message of the song 😉
You are clearly anti-white.
Although no doubt you live in and benefit from a white country. (Roll eyes)
BritishActivism
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I’m not too sure what I make of this. The actual production value/production quality of the recording is pretty good – when compared to the kind of ‘home made’ things we can usually get.
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As for the genre itself, well, I am sure that leaves a lot to be desired by many nationalists. One of the problems with ‘white-nationalists’ trying to appeal to the youth of today is that it can often tend to be older people imagining what younger people would like to hear. That often leads to disaster.
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For example, there was a ‘dance mix’ of this kind of thing the other year. It had a kind of ‘Eurobeat’ sound to it that was popular-ish in Europe about a decade ago.
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It was okay as far as it went (there’s no real need to go out of my way to knock the people actually trying to make something), it wasn’t even all that nasty sounding (unlike that kind of amateur ‘MIDI sound’ you can tend to get) – but it is so easy to generate a sound that just sounds like your dad trying to be “hip with the kids” – but what’s just not right or appealing to them at all. Like ‘dad-dancing’ at a disco….. the kids just tend to curl up and hide. Neither of the videos are that bad – but you will know the risk I mean.
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Ideally it has to come from within the youth itself. It needs that raw energy, such as captured by Joy Division in their breakthrough days or the likes of the Sex Pistols – the latter of which was likely to have purposefully been fabricated for the purpose of achieving radical left wing societal change.
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On the one hand we have tried the folksy stuff and in my own opinion it just isn’t going to be that popular with the youth of today. It may attract a few, as folk has had a bit of a revival, but it is hardly rebellious. You need a spread of things.
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On the other hand, with the infiltration of MTV and such and given that the play list of Radio One is saturated with rap/’r&b’ garbage, that’s what you tend to hear now as being the music of the youth. This is not least in part because so much of the youth in London and other cities ARE black or Asian. Many whites in such places are getting like lost puppies tagging along, as they are rendered the minority who has to fit in with the crowd and imitate the rest.
So what do you do when it comes to the rest of the country where the rot has not yet taken hold so much? I have never been into punk and metal bands, but as an outsider to the genre, the old style of punk and thrash metal bands seem to me to have had their day too – and I think a boy-band ‘nationalist’ group would be pretty preposterous!
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I am no longer all that young at 35, so I cannot really be fit to comment on what teenagers and folk in their early 20’s are into, but you may need to have some kind of Kaiser Chiefs / Muse / style pop/metal band, or some kind of Taylor Swift pop/country singers who are going to be pushing out content which is more subtle yet still encourages racial self awareness and some decent morals.
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(The MUSE ‘Uprising’ song is very well themed for nationalism in my opinion, but I very much doubt that the band would be pleased to hear that!).
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The trouble is, wholesome has been engineered to be ‘boring’ – but not entirely. They haven’t fully shut the door and maybe there are signs of times changing.
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For example, I heard recently something about ‘slut shaming’ being a new trend on social media (which has been cited as bullying, but perhaps it is more a case of being ‘judgemental’ or ‘stigmatising’ – which is not always a bad thing in society).
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I have no real idea about what has gone on except for the very basics; that people are being mocked for their lack of moral fibre, dressing with nothing but a belt-skirt on, getting ‘Tango’-like face tans, and so on. They are being exposed as being ridiculous, trashy and ‘letting the side down’. Without knowing the specifics, I will leave it there.
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I suspect there are many youths who might loathe the ‘beer binge’ culture and similarly wish to reject that kind of extreme behaviour that plagues our streets of a weekend. Is there an emerging market that is now “rejecting” the ‘anything goes’ society?
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Besides, when it comes to songs, good old romance tales never truly die. It is still just about possible to have a song about commitment, marriage, family, finding ‘the one’ and so on. It doesn’t all have to be pornographic content like Madonna or her subversive degeneracy counterpart Lady GaGa, or slyly discussing drugs like many ‘artists’ seem to do.
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(Don’t they realise they have had their revolution and that they are boring now? There are no more taboos to break, we have even had songs and videos by ‘rap artists’ that have been verging on necrophilia! A nationalist rebellion should be much more exciting and rebellious than their tired nonsense – after all they ARE the establishment and prevailing view now, they are not rebelling over anything radical at all!!)
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I often have ideas of things I want to do, but never get around to them. One of them was to collect clips of as many songs I can remember which had propaganda lines in them aimed at moulding a society into shape. There must be hundreds of them.
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For example the lines in Bruce Hornsby and the Range ‘The way it is’ – “you can’t go where the other kids go, cos you don’t look like they do. Hey old man how can you stand to think that way, did you really think about it before you made the rules?”…..
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Michael Jackson’s song “It don’t matter if you’re black or white” is another societal propaganda tool that seeps into the public consciousness. A line in the Jimiroquai song ‘Virtual Insanity’ says something along the lines of how ‘a mother cannot choose the colour of her child, that’s not natures way, well that’s what they said yesterday, I guess we have to pray…’ – and on and on it goes.
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This kind of subtle agenda saturates the airwaves and has done for over 60 years.
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John Lennon’s ‘Imagine’ is a popular song. I used to like the tonal sound of it and the general sentiment until I became a nationalist and came to understand it as being more the communist ideology put in a song format.
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The thing is though, it is the leftist-utopian sentiment and ‘values’ that it sold that made it popular. The left have always been clever in propaganda tools and psychology, such as the use of ‘culture’ to push an agenda. I think we ideally need our own vision ‘painting’ – and our own issues telling.
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The Mantra is a bit of a blunt instrument to wedge into a song and to expect it to take off as a popular hit with the kids anyway in my view. You’re probably better off telling a tale of inspiration, or a tale of the disasters of modern nation-states at the hand of the liberal-left, and the injustices of it.
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Although it pains me to say it, you could even have a rap song telling a story of modern Britain or Europe from a white perspective. However, as I said earlier, I would ideally prefer the other music formats.
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I will give Horus and the team top marks for effort, but whether they have done their research and studied the psychology of such a musical tactic remains to be seen.
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Maybe with this song they are testing the waters. I may be too cynical, but I just cannot imagine some random youth searching this out unless they were already ‘on board’ to the message behind it.
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But perhaps the point is to just get “something” out there which causes people to play it and listen anyway – just for the curiosity and controversy, like we have done – so that they at least hear the Mantra message. (Whether they come away liking it is perhaps secondary in their concern).
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It does gnaw at me to listen to ‘white nationalist rap’. I can’t say I like the idea of it taking off. However, at the end of the day, I suppose I should not care what white-youths will listen to now or in the future – as long as they have a future secured.
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Music is a fad that changes through the decades. As long as whites are still around, preferably being the vast majorities of their homelands, they will come to make their own musical genres again.
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If white youths are not going to be interested in ‘rap’ lyrics about our plight though, then I can’t see why it would be pursued further as an idea. If it works and turns their viewpoint inside out, then fair enough, they might snap out of their imitation of ‘being black’ and come to reject all that rap culture, like I did myself when I was in my late teens.
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It is a sad reflection on ‘globalism’ too when you think about it. I have heard of African rap groups in remote Africa, the Chinese have their rap groups, Turks probably have their rap groups, French and Germans have their rap groups etc. Despite their languages and ethnicities, they all look and sound the flaming same. It is completely bland and monotonous. As long as they remain distinct peoples though, I suppose that is the main thing. The rest will probably work itself out later, given the chance.
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One of the best songs I have heard with racial overtones in recent times was the Gavin Hopley tribute song titled ’19 years’. The soundtrack can be found here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_2zC_v_4GQ .
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I defy any nationalist not to get a chill up the spine when listening to the words and the very effective whistling and guitar combination. I do not even listen to such genre of music normally, but it really struck me as a great simple piece that was well laid down.
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Rasta Viking seems a little bit confused and contradictory though, not least in name. I am not sure whether he understands this site or why the video was deemed necessary to be made by Horus The Avenger.
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Whilst it is correct that the music needs to come out of a revolutionary spirit of our youth, we are not here to appeal to everyone – especially Blacks, Latino, Asians, Orientals.
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Horus is primarily there to try and appeal to the white youth, in this case by trying to tap into what sadly passes as ‘youth culture’ at the moment.
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We do not really want “common ground” with those other groups mentioned, other than to reinforce the message that they should be in their own ancestral lands with their own people, instead of being interlopers and problems in ours.
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Their presence and expansion in all historically white nations will ultimately result in the ‘white genocide’ as a whole – which is precisely what Horus is talking about in the message of the song. Genocide (by UN definition) does not only mean violence and bloodshed carried out in a single act.
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I don’t think I will have the patience to prove the point which the Horus team are discussing, so maybe ‘Rasta Viking’ should investigate what they are saying for himself, if he is interested.
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My interest in this article is purely that of discussing a musical strategy (if we are to have one) – and my thoughts about this ‘white rap’ idea being floated to try and get a message across to a younger age group.
Rasta Viking
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@BritishActivism, I understand quite well the point of the video. The video is claiming the genocide of whites by Massive immigration, and the cultures of others being pushed upon you WHICH RESULTS IN GENOCIDE of white nations. However for Example a So called “WHITE NATION America, has a gigantic statue in its harbor with the words “GIVE US YOUR POOR HUDDLED MASSES” which was put there by the forefathers you claim founded the country for you. Also White nations have colonized other nations and in turn the inhabitants of that colonized nation become and an extension of the colonizing nation “white nation” White nations would not survive without the resources of the colonies. This is why you will see loads of jamaicans, indians in britan as they have citizenship from the time of british rule.
You do not have to have common ground with others just make sure your point comes across in a manner they can relate too so they know where you stand. Reggae/Rap was founded out of struggle that many identified with. Blacks, asians, latinos, non racist whites. They understand where the black struggle comes from, which is why BOB MARLEY can travel to GERMANY and have an entire stadium full of whites hootin hollering, and pumping their fist against the white establishment igniting fire in their souls. Even today the NEW revolutionary reggae artist who picked up the reigns can travel to any part of EUROPE and have a stadium full of whites hungry for revolutionary music and singing along word for word. Before it was people like BOB MARLEY, STEEL PULSE, GREGORY ISSACS . In this day and age their is an entire roster full of explosive revolutionary artist who europeans long for. SIZZLA, CAPLETON are just two modern examples of reggae artist speaking out against white establishment, and they are explosive in EUROPE. The youths of EUROPE LONG and cant wait for the day to hear the “FIREMAN/PROPHET” words of wisdom.
Even in the RAP scene not reggae there are revolutionary artist who are loved by american white youths. Im not talking about RICK ROSS JAY Z drug dealing knuckle heads. But the rappers such as JASIRI X, WISE INTELLIGENT, etc. Blacks in america have long realized what went wrong with the rap scene being infiltrated. The rap scene went from speaking out against drugs Grandmaster Flash song white lines to song like rick ross telling you to sell as much coke as you can. The positive rappers were not being promoted as hard as negative rappers and the positive went underground. now they have resurfaced with the past couple of years as the black community has been crying out for new revolutionary music to change the minds of the black youths affected by the music of JAY z and rick ross.
Here is an Example of the new revolutionary rappers who have surfaced within the past decade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvYqOjaSsig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcmUAG210oM
And example of the revolutionary reggae which European youths long for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ZB1gjKvJY
A song dedicated to the ancestors of the african kings, warriors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv0yeJWiSTQ
The thing with caucasian music is its bland. Your music is ment to keep you in a catatonic like state, have you ever been to a classical music concert?….. It doesnt have the rhythm to move the heart which in turns makes the blood turn to fire. Music wins the hearts and minds of the people, and you are loosing that battle
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“The thing with caucasian music is its bland.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z_TheGgFWI
BritishActivism
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Rasta Viking, I think that classical music is a generally a ‘European thing’ – so I am guessing that you’re not likely to appreciate it anyway.
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Even for those who are European, it may only come to be something they appreciate later in life, unless they are being classically trained in some form of musical instrument and are accustomed to it from an early age.
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I am not even that much into classical music myself (aside from recognising some work of the most popular composers), but to suggest it is “bland” is a bit ridiculous in my opinion. Some of it is excellent and deeply stirring and some isn’t, just like any musical genre.
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The Japanese seem to appreciate classical music.There is a wonderful video online of the Osaka Philharmonic Orchestra performing Holst’s ‘Jupiter’. I believe that there is a general reason as to why the Japanese are more likely to appreciate classical music, such as their own general historical culture and innate character.
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At the end of the day, taking it very simply, music is subjective. People into rock will not tend to like rap, people into rap will not listen to country, people into country won’t like house or techno music, and all of them will tell the other that they are the ones with the wrong music and give reason as to why their own is better than everybody else’s, and why theirs truly has the “message” and the ‘mood’ to send to the world.
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My opinion is that if somebody is not stirred by the emotion of *some* classical or folk music, then that is a flaw in their nature and culture – and is not a reflection of the ‘blandness’ of mine.
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What you also seem to miss out of your equation so far (when it comes to the ‘take up’ of rap by whites), is the propaganda effort which has been put into place to change the nature and culture of white society. Surely you don’t believe that the culture of say 1950s America morphed into today’s one (supporting of black rappers) all on its own without any nudging?
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There is going to be an element of psychology and cultural shaping at play which has led to this phenomena, so I am not foolish enough to believe that the white demographic flocked to rap music because of its craftsmanship, their natural association with the ‘plight’ of the Black-man or some other supposed ‘quality’.
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Along the way it will have been funnelled into being as it is now. A heavy dose of “white guilt” has no doubt helped idiotic white people into wanting to associate with it and the anti-white message it so often gives out. Where did they get these opinions? That is what I am talking about. They will not have come to them on their own. To me, such white people are dupes.
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If you understood the video by Horus earlier, why did you claim that the point it was making is “imaginary”? (That was why you did not sound like you understood it, to me).
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Are you still denying what the end result will be? If so, how do you reach that conclusion?
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It is one thing ‘not to care’ (or to be ‘all for it’) – but it is something else to hide behind the idea that it is all imaginary and not going to be the case if things carry on as they are now.
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I am not really going to start unravelling the usual flawed “you went there, so they are all here” argument in great detail – especially with people who by their very nature will not ultimately care of the alternative views or facts anyway.
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Did you know, for example, that it cost Britain more to abolish slavery (at the time it is most renowned for) than it ever gained from it? Are you aware of the white slaves taken in their thousands from Europe by Arabs, that Arabs were much more prevalent in slavery than ‘whites’ (and often much more brutal), that blacks brutally slaved each other long before (and since) “we” came along – or know of the role of the Jewish people in the slave trade to America?
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Not many are aware. They are often only fed the lines (and obsess) about ‘evil whitey’.
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People often make out as though we owe something special – and that we are somehow unique to empires, colonies and slavery. The whole ‘whites are baddies’ and ‘blacks and minorities are suppressed and innocent goodies’ narrative we usually tend to get is plain daft and extremely simplistic. It is not only wrong, but fosters a culture where blacks do not take any responsibility for their own problems and own societies.
Off the top of my head, I cannot think of a single prosperous, well developed, well educated, safe, black nation, anywhere, that people hold up as a beacon of civilisation and where they want to migrate to for a “better standard of life”.
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For anybody to suggest that it is all the ‘white-man’s’ fault and not in large part (or exclusively) of their own doing is pretty preposterous to me.
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How long is this blame game and excuse going to go on? – 100 years? 200 years? 300 years? Until there are no white people left to attribute all the blame to? It should be embarrassing for them.
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I am a nationalist, I am not even here to defend colonialism or the British Empire, but for anyone to suggest it was all bad, or that we owe some kind of duty to “do away with ourselves” as a race and nation because of it, is absolutely crazy.
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Nor does it really excuse, justify or explain their presence here in Britain, especially in such numbers. It is often cited as an explanation or justification, but that is not to say that it was some kind of natural occurrence or natural consequence. The British people themselves certainly never asked for it (or voted for it).
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If you really want to get into all that slavery, colonialism, British Empire stuff I will gladly put out some countering points another time. I can defend my ground ably enough, even though I am not even an advocate of such things. Many people tend to run away and hide when challenged over them, but I do not.
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Even if I disingenuously take the mainstream (left-wing) narrative as being right (which I do not), at the end of the day, two ‘wrongs’ do not make a right – and nor should the ‘sins’ of the father be visited upon the child, which is what many people appear to be supporting with their ’empire strikes back’ type of attitude.
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I wonder if the Arab/Muslim empires are doing away with themselves with “Arab guilt” and allowing mass migration of others into their lands? No. I thought not.
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What about the Turkish people? Are they apologising and demographically doing away with themselves for their historical actions? No. I don’t think so.
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How about the Japanese? Nope. Perhaps the Malay, or the descendants of the Mongol empire? Again, no. They are all just noted as ‘footnotes of history’ – whereas we seem to have to pay forever and pay with our very survival.
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I am not a neo-conservative either or somebody who would go out and meddle in other peoples affairs. Things going on in the world in the name of the ‘white western world’ are not being done at my request or consent. For example, I did not support the war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia, or the current involvement this country is in with Egypt, Syria and Mali and goodness knows where else. I am against globalism and the so-called New Word Order.
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I am sure you are aware (or can appreciate) the point that there is an elite agenda at work with many of these things. The ordinary ‘white man’ is not part of it – and nationalists like myself are certainly not willing parts of it. People who, for example, hate the British whites for their “role in Iraq” or their “role” in this or that have no idea what they are talking about. The British people hardly ever get any say in the matter.
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When you look into a lot of historical actions, and who is behind a lot of the chaos today, you tend to find people who look white and pass themselves off as white, but who are not actually so. It might serve some black (and white) people well to learn to tell the difference. I am sure you aware of various influences in American politics, for example.
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Some of the ‘elite’ whites may have made fortunes in the past, but that elite factor is true today also. It does not often ‘trickle down’ to the common man. Look at what Tony Blair has accrued by his various “world” adventures for example! The ordinary people in Britain and Europe, or even America, are not in that bracket now – and they never were back then either.
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So why should ordinary British people be made to “pay” for this with their very existence? That sounds awfully much like ‘racial hatred’ and vengeance waged against a race of people.
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There is no counter ‘racial hatred’ or vengeance on my part, or that of most nationalists. It is the “situation” that we are all in that is my problem.
I am glad that you say rappers are starting to reject the negative culture which it has so often given out in the past. I think it creates a downward cycle that feeds itself – and I do not think it is good for black people as a whole.
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I support better messages in black music, especially if that means getting them to stop glamorising drug cultures, carrying a chip on their shoulder, going on about stereotypical themes of ‘bitches, money, ho’s and ‘da police’ all the time.
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If blacks can turn all that around and snap out of the mindset they have generally gone down (especially with some of the rappers and rap culture), then good for them. I wish them luck. I certainly have no interest or desire in seeing them do the opposite.
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By my screen name, you will have gathered that I am British. From what you have said so far I gather you are in America, so when it comes to American history I presume that you will know more about the country than me, and will know that “America” was founded as a nation by whites, explicitly for whites.
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I will not need to tell you that it was not ever intended to be a ‘proposition nation’ for all races and cultures, or that the founding fathers were quite clear over the matter – and that they even gave thanks to the fact that their residency stipulation meant they would retain a healthy and prosperous ‘white’ society free of unnecessary ills and burdens.
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It was therefore not a “so called” white nation. It WAS founded as a white nation, by whites, for whites, and was no doubt planned to be so for eternity. (That it is not one now is another matter entirely!).
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I will also gather that you know the real history regarding the Statue Of Liberty – and why it is a red-herring for people to suggest it was there to ‘welcome immigrants’ and ‘huddled masses’, or imply that it was designed for such a sentiment.
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It was given by the nation of France to the American people at the centennial of the American independence. Its real title is ‘Liberty Enlightening the World’ and it was supposed to be a beacon shedding the light of ‘liberty values’ to the outside world.
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It was never set up to welcome ‘the huddled masses, the wretched refuse of their teeming shores.’ and so on. That was tacked on years later as part of an agenda.
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Even when Emma Lazarus penned “The New Colossus” in 1883 (featured on the plaque inside) and stated those sentiments about “The wretched refuse of your teeming shore” – they would primarily have been those born in Europe and who could more easily assimilate into a population that was both Caucasian and overwhelmingly Christian.
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It was hardly the clarion call by Americans for a “racial melting pot” formed from the worlds destitute and deserters of failed nations.
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This is just the modern liberal lie and fantasy, by which they try and justify massive levels of non-white immigration and to prop up the lie of the ‘proposition nation’ as reason for them to be accepted.
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It will be no surprise for other nationalists to learn that the plaque hijacking of the meaning of the “Statue of Liberty” was written by Emma Lazarus – who was Jewish and a forerunner of the Zionist movement, some 13 years before Theodor Herzl started using the phrase.
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Nor will it be a surprise to learn that this apparent feat of “good will” was done because she was working predominately for the Jewish peoples self interest, particularly Ashkenazi Jews and general Jewish refugees, and working heavily for their acceptance and advancement in America. (It is even stated on her Wikipedia entry).
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When it comes to Britain, most of the non-whites in Britain, to my knowledge, did not have citizenship rights “since the time of British rule” either. I think they were only afforded right to residency in 1948 – not even at the request of the electorate – and I think that the rule of settlement was changed by the time of the 1962 commonwealth immigration act.
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I also think that the vast majority of blacks and other non whites here in Britain now are not going to be residents or resultants from this original influx from the commonwealth anyway. They will have been numerically overtaken by immigrants and their descendants since the 1970’s, and especially in the last 12 to 15 years.
We do not owe those people anything, especially not some universal right of residency. (I do not think that we ordinary British people owed the original ‘wave’ of non-white settlers anything either!)
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Back to music though – which is why I commented at all – I am not going to run down rap music as an entity or genre of music for everybody else.
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If Blacks like rap music and fail to be stirred by classical music or folk music then that is fine for them and fine by me, I would not really expect anything else. It is “horses for courses” as we say here.
I happen to not like it that much and see no major value in it (for whites). To me it is also sonically boring, monotonous, basic, and similarly ‘catatonic’. Only the variation of the words shows any sign of difference to me. Musically, it is rubbish in my view.
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Rap lyricists may be talented and articulate word-smiths when they want to be, I may be able to give some of them credit for that, but whether what they actually state in those words is right or good is another matter and also subject to taste and debate.
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The video you linked to from the ‘wise Intelligent’ is at least discussing some of the elites and agendas which tend plague us all, instead of the usual stereotype of moaning about being pulled up by the police or whatever rappers are usually griping about (and have been griping about for the last 20 to 25 years, at least since Public Enemy, N.W.A and Ice-Cube).
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Obviously I do not agree to some of the content in the W.I video (which in my opinion takes some wider things and distorts them to suit only black grievances and their paranoia) – but it at least makes sense from a ‘black’ view to the whole New World Order position. And that is the demographic it is mainly targeted at – despite any idiot whites that might also be tagging along.
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This is what I was mentioning earlier, to other nationalists, that the blunt instrument of the “Mantra” (as featured in the video on this article) – is not as deep as the ‘wise intelligent’ video. The mantra is potentially a good and useful meme and tactic for whites, but whether it is suited for music is another matter. There is no harm in them trying it though, especially as part of a wider push.
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That is why I said that it might be more beneficial (in terms of a general propaganda drive) for ‘white nationalists’ to push out a wider message in songs about what we see as going on, from our white perspective, just like W.I seem to have done for blacks.
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I was not all that keen on some of the other videos that you linked, as perhaps, understandably, they will not resonate with me. I personally found the reggae one dreadful in all aspects. But some people clearly like it, and good for them.
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The Trayvon Martin song was the usual kind of material to me, and besides, I seem to recall how it eventually turned out that Trayvon was being suspicious, that he had attacked the person who shot him, and that the shooter was not “white” – as the media had it – but in fact Hispanic. (Nothing like the truth and facts to spoil a good victimhood / anti-white story though, eh).
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But I digress, we are talking musical content and its use as a tool for change. I don’t want to get into Trayvon Martin.
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Going back to the ‘wise intelligent’ one then, if people are into that, they might appreciate some of the points of nationalism. We share a few themes about what is going on in a bigger picture – and in some cases blame the same kinds of people and agendas.
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The Trayvon one seems roughly to be about the problems in black society and their “struggle” and grievances to get ahead – and how they need to act (no doubt against whites and wider society who they perceive to be holding them down). It is therefore ‘revolutionary’ in terms of spirit and attitude and taking a stand, but maybe there are other ways for things to be done in this world.
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Nationalism solves that kind of grievance and conflict by not mixing up the populations and not being divided and conquered by elites in this way. We see it as a drain on us all on both sides, problematic, full of heartaches, conflicts and issues which never need arise. We also see it as destructive of genuine diversity in the world.
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We wish no harm to anybody else, but we seek to preserve a future for ourselves, tend to believe that ‘good fences gives good neighbours’ – and that homogeneous nations of people work much better, no mater what race or ethnicity they are.
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I even vaguely seem to recall that some historical radical Black activists were once of the same opinion. Mohammed Ali the boxer was seemingly of that opinion too. The irony is that both extremes would probably agree to separate and tend to their own affairs, as Ali implied in his interview with British TV presenter Michael Parkinson back in the 1970’s.
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Whilst it may well be the case that ‘nationalists’ are currently losing a battle in the terms of music and culture – (against some foes much higher up the chain than rappers, in my opinion) – that is why we are here commenting on this video and asking ourselves what we intend to try and do about it.
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A revolutionary edge (as can be seen elsewhere in Europe with the rise of various nationalist groups and parties) could even be on our side. For example the French Bloc Identitaire monologue video contained such an attitude. Golden Dawn is making a lot of headway in Greece at the moment.
When it comes to Europe and the straitjacket the elites are strapping us into, we are the arguably the true rebellions to their plans for the future of the world. We are seen as the taboo here. We are the ones railed against by the establishment order because we advocate distinct nations and distinct peoples who are in charge of their own affairs.
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We even face an existential threat as a race, whereas in comparison, over 95% of future world population growth is cited to be present in the third world and current developing countries. (On this planet, ‘ethnic minorities’ they most certainly are not!).
Many elements of a rebellion are laying dormant, potentially ready to come out. On another musical note therefore, the “fat lady” has not sung just yet.
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I appreciate the point you are making regarding the thematic drive of the music you’re on about – and it’s role for that group it is primarily aimed at.
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I do not think you are wrong. I know what you are getting at when it comes to the attitude (and such) of it.
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In fact, as I say, we even seem to share some issues and blame some of the very same people for various things. However, whilst we may share some of those issues, we also have our own fight to wage and our own message to give.
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That is what we are talking about here – or at least, what I am trying to be talking about when I am not being distracted by feeling the need to have to try and justify why white people should survive (especially in their own homelands!).
s.ducain
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What is the point of writing such a long essay to ‘Rasta Viking’? He is either non-White or a lefty taking the mickey and consequently he is most unlikely to appreciate anything you say.
anonymous
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Agreed, s.ducain. Seriously, this is actually supposed to be some kind of a legitimate debate about the worthiness of European music vs. non-European self-evident crap. Seriously. Why is time of day even being given to such nonsense? No direct response is the best way to answer.