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Max Musson Speaks – On John Tyndall, Electioneering, Money, and Unity!

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By Max Musson:

There is a debate taking place within British nationalism regarding whether or not electioneering is a worthwhile endeavour for nationalists; whether or not it is an effective means of pursuing our political aims; whether or not we are wasting our time, money and effort in what is increasingly viewed as a futile practice.

This is not a debate about the rights and wrongs of the principle of democracy, because virtually everyone involved in politics of any sort, likes to feel that we act with the at least implicit support and approval of the majority of our people, and accept that voting in one form or another is a valid means by which explicit expression of that support and approval can be gained.

Nor is this simply a debate concerning the decidedly asymmetric nature of the electoral contest between the miniscule ‘David’ of British nationalism verses the monstrous ‘Goliath’ of our political establishment in terms of the resources each side is able to muster. It is instead a debate calling into question all aspects of the integrity and honesty of our current electoral system.

If one visits the Electoral Commission’s website here in the UK, and clicks on the ‘Candidate or Agent’ tab, there is an invitation to view the Commission’s ‘introduction to elections pdf’, and this brief document provides very basic, albeit fundamental information in a childishly naïve form:

The pdf states: “The UK is a democracy in which MPs, councillors, MEPs and other elected representatives are chosen in free and fair elections.

“An election is a formal decision-making process by which a population chooses an individual to hold public office by voting.

“Voting is your chance to help to choose the people who run the country, represent us in Europe and your local area.”

My intention in this article is to demonstrate beyond all reasonable doubt, that despite the ‘window dressing’, elections in the UK are not ‘free and fair’ and that as a consequence the public can have no confidence that their participation in the electoral process has any real decisive effect in determining who ultimately runs our country, or represents us in Europe or our local areas. Furthermore, I intend to demonstrate why no nationalist political party can have confidence that their participation in the electoral process will have any realistic chance of delivering any worthwhile amount of political power or influence.

I have stood as a candidate for both the National Front and the British National Party and I have acted as the Election Agent, Polling Agent and Counting Agent, both for myself and numerous other nationalist candidates over the years. I therefore have first-hand knowledge, not just of how elections should operate, but how they do operate in practice, when nationalist candidates stand for election.

When an individual applies to stand in an election, they are provided with a copy of a manual produced by the Electoral Commission entitled, ‘Guidance for Candidates and Agents’, detailing what they can and cannot do, what they should or should not expect and what will be expected of them, and I do not intend to go through each and every one of these rules, regulations and conventions, firstly because there is not sufficient space in an article of this kind, and secondly because it is not necessary. Within the few issues I will identify below, is enough evidence to demonstrate my argument beyond all reasonable doubt.

Anyone who has actively participated in an election campaign will know that the basic rules designed to ensure a robust outcome to elections are flagrantly flouted on a routine basis. So shot full of holes is the manner in which elections are conducted these days that it would be impossible to measure the full scope for electoral fraud which could be committed by our political establishment:

Polling agents are routinely frustrated in their efforts to check that ballot boxes are empty at the start of polling; ballot boxes are routinely opened during the course of polling so that ballot papers can be squashed down, ostensibly to make more room; the electoral staff do not use numbered seals, so the seals on the boxes can be broken and the boxes repeatedly opened and resealed with impunity; when parties apply their own ballot box seals, which they are entitled to, these seals are often found broken open at the count with no explanation; ballot boxes are transported to the count in the boots of the private cars of electoral staff, which often take an inordinate length of time to reach the count, again with no explanation offered; ballot boxes are often stored overnight in poorly secured storage facilities; and ballot boxes are routinely broken open before election agents and counting observers are admitted to the counting hall. All of these are flagrant breaches of electoral procedure and these breaches are routinely ignored when complaints are made.

During my career, I have been employed as a bank manager and I can tell you that in banking, the principle of ‘moral hazard’ asserts that: if someone is exposed often enough to the opportunity to do something illegal, which is to their advantage, and in circumstances in which they will not be found out, they will inevitably succumb to temptation and commit that illegal act. On this basis therefore, we would be wise to assume (because a bank would) that electoral fraud is widespread and endemic. Strangely, however, none of the establishment politicians, even those comparatively honest individuals have ever complained about this most unsatisfactory state of affairs. They evidently benefit from this lax system and so it would seem they are content to say nothing!

Ballot boxes may contain fraudulently completed ballot papers at the beginning of polling day; polling station staff could add fraudulent ballot papers to ballot boxes during polling day, unsealing and resealing the ballot boxes as required; the ballot boxes delivered to the count could have been opened and interfered with en route to the count, or entire, fraudulently stuffed ballot boxes could be substituted in their place en route; and finally, ballot boxes could be interfered with at the count prior candidates and agents being admitted.

In order to ‘fix’ the outcome of a general election, it would not be necessary to commit electoral fraud in every constituency, but just in enough ‘marginal’ constituencies, in order to tip the balance in your favour. Even in those constituencies, it would not be necessary to commit electoral fraud in every polling district, but just in enough polling districts to produce the desired outcome.

Clearly with so many omissions within the polling system, it would be possible for a small number of people to tamper with the ballot boxes in just a few wards within the thirty or so marginal constituencies needed to determine the outcome of a general election. By tampering with just a few ballot boxes, the outcome in just a few wards could be ‘fixed’; and with just a few ‘fixed’ wards, the outcome of elections in thirty or so marginal parliamentary constituencies could be ‘fixed’; and with thirty marginal constituencies fixed in their favour, our political establishment could determine the outcome of a general election. It’s as simple as that, and if you don’t believe electoral fraud is routinely committed to ‘fix’ elections, I’ve got a second hand car with low mileage and just one previous lady owner you might be interested in …

The lesson for us nationalists to learn is that while we may eventually, one day, contest a general election in order to gain that final seal of constitutional legitimacy, our ascent to political power will only come once we have acquired the Six Prerequisites and thereby the wherewithal needed to establish ourselves as the dominant opinion forming elite within this country and the de facto government in waiting.

Mao Tse Dung once famously stated that, “political power emanates from the barrel of a gun”, and sometimes that is true, but most other times, it emanates from between the pages of a cheque book, and this is why other nationalist groups must seek unity, so that the funding system pioneered by Western Spring can benefit from the greatest possible uptake, thereby giving us the money power we will need if we are to achieve the Six Prerequisites and deliver the salvation of our people.

By Max Musson © 2015

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33 thoughts on “Max Musson Speaks – On John Tyndall, Electioneering, Money, and Unity!”

  1. janet

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    It is not going to happen, Max. Here is the simple reason why: They have brought in all these low-IQ people who expect to be taken care of. These low-IQ people have lots of children, obviously, and they will easily tip the balance in a “democratic setting” (which means mob rule). Now we all know that low-IQ people want instant gratification for all their wants, and they feel it is their right to demand whatever they want at the expense of others. They will be the ones who determine the course of political elections and they will elect those fools who will accommodate their demands. Intelligent people are not going to get elected if they keep on bringing in these invaders. dumb down, dumb down. of course, there is the possibility that the entire population of Japan will have to be evacuated before the country is subducted. perhaps if you give asylum to the Japanese and you get enough of them, you will have an intelligent offset who are capable of critical thinking and can help you get things on the proper course. Until some such thing occurs, there is little chance of competing with the 80-IQ hordes who are bent on destroying everything you and your forebears have achieved. your invaders’ IQs are NEVER going to be on a par with your own–that is just the way it is.

    1. Max Musson

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      I disagree! All that is needed is for Whites to return to the habit of having large families, such that we can out breed the ‘unwanted’. This is why it is so important that we establish White enclaves in which life is structured around enabling White families to reproduce without restriction and which can become centres of White population expansion.
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      It has always been like this. What kept the Asiatic hordes at bay in Medieval times was a solid wall of White flesh, keeping them out and pushing them back. It is the eternal struggle of White biomass against non-White biomass and we must breed if we are to win.

      1. Jews dogs and wimmen

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        An they have to be front line enclaves in the big cities but isn’t selling or subletting to white only illegal? Could members only of a pagan religion cover the legality? Best enclave ulster. In general the constitution Magna Garta, the bill of rights 1689 is Totally dead actually the UK doesn’t exist, 3 generations of scum that’s all it took, triators are worse than murderers. Red poppies……meanwhile because of the strength superiority of French culture the FN has traction.

        1. Max Musson

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          Yes, the explicit discrimination against individuals based upon race or religion is illegal here in Britain, and that is why such discrimination must be implicit and in such a form that it is nigh on impossible to prove. You are right again, that Ulster and the various Republican and Unionist enclaves that have existed for many decades, despite being festooned with flags, bunting and murals, do show that it possible in the current circumstances to create enclaves that endure.
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          While the constitutional protections of the British nation have been undermined by EU membership and subsequent legislation, ‘THE LAW’, that is the laws which prevail in any society, are those enforced by the group with the largest and most determined body of ‘enforcers’. Today it is our corrupt government who are able to muster the largest gang of uniformed bully-boys, that they send after you if you break ‘their laws’, but in future, we might find that just as the Ukrainian riot police found their match in the legions of Pravi Sektor, so the ‘enforcers’ of corrupt laws here in the UK might one day discover that a new more powerful authority wants to return those ancient constitutional protections.
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          Lastly, the apparent traction of the FN in France is largely the result of proportional representation in elections, which has enabled the FN to gain representation in local government and in Euro elections. The long awaited breakthrough, when the FN will acquire real political power is still long awaited however, and will not come until they too acquire the Six-Prerequisites.

      2. Stefan

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        The problem is that over population of any kind will lead to social collapse at some point when the infrastructure can’t cope & the money runs out.
        Us breeding has to be balanced out by stopping inward immigration & repatriation of those who shouldn’t be here in the first place.
        It would have to be understood in law that this is a White European country & that is protected by our constitution.

  2. MsBridgit

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    “The UK is a democracy in which MPs, councillors, MEPs and other elected representatives are chosen in free and FAIR elections.”

    ……depending of course who has the most generous availability of election funds

    Stand up the boy who sniggered………….this is no laughing matter

  3. heechee

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    Learn from the Zionist, use your money to build your own community,build your business ventures with the support of your community and then extend the influence, that your money and assets provide, ever outwards from your bastions.

    Initially let others fund political parties that your community will become vital to, to gain the favours that your “free support” requires.

    1. Wayne

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      The social aspect seems key, building a successful community that can become an example to and the envy of so many areas in the UK and entire Western world where the ‘progressive’ experiment is failing people so shamefully is a great idea as it is so much more attractive than another smear campaign.

      The electoral route has always seemed like long and winding road to me with no real end in its self as lobby groups and their ilk tend to muddy the waters. As for cold calling, so to speak, the returns on such an effort would likely be minimal, not least due the decades of brain washing the masses have endured. The herd will be drawn to the populism of a successful social movement and the ground is certainly fertile, but I fear most will have to come round in their own time.

      Could the missing link between the social and political be a well organised, secretive force dedicated to shaking the foundations of the fifth column via covert actions?

      1. Max Musson

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        In answer to your last point, NO! It would be too easy for the establishment to portray the actions you suggest as contraventions of the various anti-terrorism Acts and this would attract disruptive and punitive actions by the dying state that we can well do without. The current political establishment are busily creating the conditions that will lead to their own collapse, without the need of any help from us. We should focus our efforts on creating an alternative society with an alternative infrastructure so that we can take over the reins as the dying state gasps its last.

    2. Stefan

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      Whites do seem poor at valuing our White society & networking, I’m talking about the general population of course, we here are trying to value & preserve such things.
      Maybe it’s the years of brainwashing & propaganda, maybe it’s our natural tolerance & humanity that is the death of us?
      The ones that survive this will be hard & ruthless, no weak seeds.

  4. Michael Woodbridge

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    The reaction of the audience to the Max Musson proposals was very encouraging. Throwing money away on elections which we can’t hope to win is foolish. Of course we’ll need a political arm in order to build a national administration but that will have to emerge from our White communities once we’ve begun to get things in place.
    Essential to our communities will be a counter culture. It will be no good building White enclaves only to find our members immersing themselves in the kind of commercialised pap, political conditioning and moral degeneration represented by the current television companies, radio and newspapers.

    1. Max Musson

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      We may at some point need a ‘political arm’, but most important is that we have a ‘social arm’. As the world of electoral politics is closed to us, our movement needs to be a ‘social movement’, not a political one.
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      The strength of our political enemies, denying us conventional participation in the electoral process, is such that we are presented with what is for us at present an ‘immovable object’, and if we want to be an ‘unstoppable force’, instead of attempting to meet that immovable object head-on, we should simply go around it. Western Spring is all about using lateral thinking to overcome the traditional obstacles to our success.

  5. Tesla1966

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    The article reminded me of this quote:

    ‘It doesn’t matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes.’ ….Joseph Stalin.

  6. Heather

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    I have to agree that as things are currently in this Nation, I can’t see how any Nationalist party will even get off the starting line, in terms of gaining office.
    It saddens me to say that I no longer feel the safety and assurances I once felt about the way things are conducted here.
    I always thought that I was extremely lucky to live here, and that the stinking corruption, political violence and tyranny was something that happened thousands of miles away, in other lands.

    It has been like a slap in the face to realise that such things do happen here. What is more, thousands upon thousands of people from such lands where corruption is a way of life, have been invited here to live, and are encouraged to participate in and gain high status in our public offices.

    Again, I find myself in agreement to the case for there being a “Social movement”
    I can only say from my experience of talking to people,that it seems this latest threat to our shores has given them a scare. People who normally have no interest in anything other than TV soaps, express a worry about it. When I point out the various future scenarios, mainly of their children or grandchildren being a minority, it seems to get the cogs whirring.
    So why wouldn’t they want to join some form of movement that would have those future generations best interests at heart. Despite all the brainwashing via the various media forms, I still think, and at least hope human nature will prevail. I often wonder how different things would be if people could be made more aware of their heritage, and culture, and kept away from the endless filth and dumbed down rubbish spewing out from every media outlet.

    As for money, I don’t see how any organisation can achieve very much without it, especially if there are no wealthy patrons to keep it afloat.

  7. Pured1989

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    Overall I agree with the article (maybe acknowledge more the benign effects of the internet over the last 20 years affording a freer exchange of information than at any other time in history). But basically in the UK the political process is spent, and here is testimony to that conclusion:

    HoC’s “debate” on Monday the 19th October 2015 of the anti-mass immigration e-Petition signed by about 200,000 people:

    https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/2d2e5038-cbf0-4a43-bfc3-6a6deb279c4d

    How this event can be properly termed a ‘debate’ in the absence of opposing arguments eludes me.

    Your articles on immigration and the economy are much-needed education for these MPs.

    By whom and how were they selected as Parliamentary candidates?

    Regardless, Parliament HAS NO POPULAR MANDATE or legal authorisation to alter the genetic or cultural character of the British People. This fact needs to be memorialised time and again.

  8. heechee

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    Hi Max just a heads up that proboards have taken down the British Resistance forum. Usual TOS violations garbage to cover for censorship.

    2. Walter Greenway

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      ProBoard terms of service ttps://www.proboards.com/tos

      “Account Suspended
      In accordance with Section 25(a) of the ProBoards Terms of Service, this forum has been taken offline.”

      WITHOUT LIMITING ANY OTHER PROVISION OF THIS AGREEMENT, PROBOARDS RESERVES THE RIGHT TO, IN PROBOARDS’ SOLE DISCRETION AND WITHOUT NOTICE OR LIABILITY, DENY USE OF THE WEBSITE AND/OR SERVICES TO ANY PERSON FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON AT ALL, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION FOR ANY BREACH OR SUSPECTED BREACH OF ANY REPRESENTATION, WARRANTY OR COVENANT CONTAINED IN THIS AGREEMENT, OR OF ANY APPLICABLE LAW OR REGULATION.”

      1. heechee

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        More voices of protest silenced to hide the lies and crimes of others.
        Does anyone know of a free, and free from NWO control, forum hosting site?

      1. heechee

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        Sorry accylad I haven’t. It’s a shame they control the medium we use.And I have no contact list for getting in touch with former members either.
        It’s all a question of finding a host that isn’t MSM and is free, haven’t the cash to spare not that that would stop them from silencing any resistance anyway,

  10. Stefan

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    I was interested in the references to Thatcher & the NF at that time, now I was not involved in politics at the time but I distinctly remember the feeling that Thatcher had stolen the thunder from the NF, attracting votes they would have got.
    So the idea that the Monday club may have infiltrated the NF makes sense as to what happened next.

  11. Stefan

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    On the idea of whether it’s better to have money or political power, I would choose money as it gives you political power if you have enough of it & use it well of course.
    Political power of course can make you rich but you are compromised getting there by any normal party route.

  12. Stefan

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    If we have power then the way to stop the opposition, is to open the books up to reveal the corruption & criminality, to destroy their bridges back.
    They will destroy the records I hear some say but most of this will exist somewhere probably in NSA archives or similar but we will get our hands on that though?

  13. Stefan

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    Welfare is a good idea, looking after our own, not with big labels on it, subtly is the key.
    Being seen as a force for good, positive rather than the negative that the MSM smears us with!
    (Oh dear a TLA!)

  14. Stefan

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    “Pathological altruism” is a good phrase for the weakness of the White race, it has to be reigned in, the 14 words needs to be the goal.
    I’m not particularly anti anyone…ok I don’t like islam…I like the various non Europeans I know but I still think that Whites have to have a home of their own, that is guaranteed not to be eroded.
    I feel everyone is entitled to that, even some obscure tribe in the Amazon rain forest is entitled to their way of life.
    But my main concern is with what is happening here & the threat to our survival in this country.
    We were never asked about what is happening, it has been forced upon us.
    The process seems to be accelerating now.
    Our pathological altruism is being stretched to breaking point in Europe, even the MSM show Afghans & Eritreans streaming in, obviously the worst of the behaviour is not reported.
    Normal people are getting worried.
    Hopefully we can give them some answers.

  15. Stefan

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    Richard Edmonds makes a very good point about the US bases, I hadn’t really thought of that!
    Yes they could be a danger to us.

  16. Stefan

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    With regard to Jez Turner, if the Right praise you & if some left wing professor criticises you, then you must be on the right track.

  17. MsBridgit

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    I have one question../

    Why have Front Nationale had so much success when British Nationalism has stagnated. Is it a lack of innate national spirit which we once had or years of NLP conditioning?

    1. Max Musson

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      The apparent traction of the FN in France is largely the result of proportional representation in elections, which has enabled the FN to gain representation in local government and in Euro elections. The long awaited breakthrough, when the FN will acquire real political power is still long awaited however, and will not come until they too acquire the Six-Prerequisites.

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