By Max Musson:
Occasionally our readers leave comments that tempt me to provide a longer and more significant reply than would be normally appropriate for our comments sections and today we have received such a comment, which I have decided to make the focus of this article.
The comment reproduced below, which was posted in response to an earlier article of mine entitled, ‘Money-Power, Money and Power‘, is one of a series with a similar theme that have been made by the same individual, identified simply as ‘Johnb’, as follows:
“As a member of the Reform Party I know all about manipulation and the term Gerrymander has to do with shaping political district’s for minority control by manipulating their boundaries.
“This has nothing to do with the struggle going on in the BNP. It needed firm leadership not old time neo-Nazi idiots going off in every direction with no concept of the need for unity; Brons, Golding, Barnrook, Bennet, Redmund, Morris, Beverly and all the rest of the self important old timers, none of them could lead a pack of cub scouts on a one hour hike.
“A nationalist Party about to take on the power structure is in a war for men’s minds with some of the most devious murderous unscrupulous people on the planet. The only reason they do not assassinate the entire BNP is its prominence in the public mind and that to do that would show the British people unmistakeably just what a ruthless bunch of snakes are ruling them, and completely undo the illusion they are so desperately struggling to maintain, The ruling class closed its dungeons because they were counterproductive, not out of any sentimentality, and you talk like ,the greatest betrayal of nationalism was getting rid of the dead wood and the stupid and those who were just too self important to stop making waves. from the BNP leadership.
“The leader is up there to be prominent enough so that murdering him is not an option. Tearing down the leader like Collet, Bennet and others did was either an act of appalling stupidity or deliberate betrayal to the entire cause.
“Also, If you don’t know by now that most of the neo-Nazis on the so called nationalists web sites are agents provocateur well Max you are not going to be of much use either
“Griffin deserves your support because he is the point man, the lightening rod, and he has brought you to prominence and acceptance with most of the conservative British Public and a good deal of the older former Labour voters.
“He has steered the ship in the right direction, and Max you with your careful well written articles should know that.
“The BNP is an army if it spends all its time in internal squabbling it will be defeated. People who can’t fathom that need not apply for membership.”
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Dear John,
It would seem that you are obtaining your information regarding nationalist politics in this country from a source that remains close to Nick Griffin, and from no-one else, so let me bring you up to date.
There is not still a struggle taking place within the BNP. There was a struggle within that party two or three years ago, but that struggle was won by Nick Griffin through his gerrymandering of the party constitution, and although he may not have realised it at the time, that victory was a hollow one because it lost him the support of the vast majority of the party’s activists and local organisers. They walked away from the party in their droves, leaving the BNP at peace, but only a fraction of its former size.
You refer to the BNP ridding itself of the “dead wood”, and that assertion might have been believable if only a small proportion of the former membership had walked away, but over the last two or three years approximately three-quarters of the membership have either resigned or declined to renew their membership. That’s an astounding level of ‘over-pruning’, if ever there was one!
There is indeed a long list of former party prima-donnas, who are amongst those who walked away from the BNP and with few exceptions they have all sunk without trace.
In fits of pique, most of the prima-donnas have joined or formed ‘BNP clone’ micro-parties and in doing so, have demonstrated a failure to realise that the ‘personality clashes’ between them and Nick Griffin, which they had thought were so important, were not causative of the decline of the BNP at all, but merely the symptoms of a deeper malaise.
The decline of the BNP was caused by the same factors which led to the decline of the National Front before it, and to the decline of each and every one of the forty-plus nationalist political parties that have come and gone here in Britain over the last hundred years or more. It is the party political structure, attempting to gain power through party political electioneering within a political and cultural milieu that is implacably and ruthlessly opposed to nationalism and the values underpinning nationalism that is the problem.
Furthermore, if we continue to flog the ‘dead horse’ of nationalist party political electioneering, then nationalist parties will continue to rise momentarily and then fail, as the BNP and all of its predecessors have, for ever more.
I would advise you John, to read earlier articles that I have written; The Great White Hope?, The Great White Hope – Revisited and The Bugle Call, which will bring you up to date with our position here at Western Spring.
We at Western Spring have conducted a deeper analysis of nationalist politics than any have ever conducted before and we have devised new strategies that avoid the pitfalls of political electioneering. Furthermore, we have so far avoided the ‘blight of the party prima-donnas’, by keeping people of that ilk at arms length, something Nick Griffin should have learned to do many years ago.
The sad fact that you have yet to realise John, is that the BNP has already been defeated. It is a ‘dead-dog’ and that is why the establishment are no longer actively attacking the party, and why we at Western Spring do not waste time attacking Griffin in the way that the ‘prima-donnas’ continue to.
The ‘BNP clone’ micro-parties are also doomed, as in so closely copying the structures, policies and tactics of the BNP, they have incorporated into their own organisations all of the organisational weaknesses and flaws that blighted the BNP and the forty-plus nationalist parties that preceded it.
In so closely copying the structures, policies and tactics of the BNP, the prima-donnas have demonstrated that they do not know why the BNP failed and what is more, they have no new ideas about what to do, or where to go. All these characters know is that whatever happens, whenever it does, they want to be the people in charge, and they would rather be the leaders of miniscule groups that fail, than admit their own shortcomings and become useful members among the ordinary ranks of an organisation that can succeed.
The sad fact however is that if nationalists keep on doing what we’ve always done, we will keep on getting what we have always got – a political party struggles to gain recognition, blooms briefly, is subject to a withering hail of criticism, vitriol, denigration and smears from the mass media, suffers a dearth of capable volunteers, suffers internal bickering, factionalism, disruption and splits, and eventually collapses.
At the next European elections, Nick Griffin will surely lose his seat as an MEP because the organisation that got him elected now barely exists. At that point he will lose whatever special status he has enjoyed over the last few years and join the ranks of the prima-donnas, a spent force at the head of a once small party now reduced to micro-party status.
Leaving aside the prima-donnas for a moment, we should focus on the fifty-thousand or more ex-BNP members who are currently demotivated, dispirited and demoralised by the apparent hopelessness of the scene of in-fighting, back-biting and recrimination that the prima-donnas have laid out before them. These poor souls have witnessed false dawn, after false dawn, after false dawn – they have been hoovered up as new, enthusiastic, idealistic nationalists – and because of the inherent flaws within the strategy of political party electioneering within a political and cultural milieu that is implacably and ruthlessly opposed to nationalism and the values underpinning nationalism, they have been used and abused and spat out, as broken and demoralised people with no hope and with shattered dreams.
These people do not need another false dawn, and probably would not now follow it even if it was presented to them – they do not need a prima-donna led micro-party BNP clone that exhorts them repeat the same sorry tactics that have failed so many times in the past – they need a new kind of organisation led by visionary thinkers who have devised new strategies and new tactics – they need a ‘Golden Dawn‘, not another false dawn, and we at Western Spring are determined to show them the way.
What is needed now is for the prima-donnas, who cannot think further than political party electioneering within a political and cultural milieu that is implacably and ruthlessly opposed to nationalism and the values underpinning nationalism, to acknowledge that they do not now know what to do, to admit that they are now past their ‘sell-by’ date, to step down from their ‘leadership’ positions, to dissolve their organisations and to recommend that their members join us.
To the thousands of former BNP members and supporters who are still sitting on their hands – to the hundreds of former BNP members who have joined the ‘BNP clone’ micro-parties – and to the hundreds of thousands of former BNP voters who have never before been active in British politics, I would urge you to email me now at [email protected] so that you can join us in our campaign to bring about the salvation of our people!
By Max Musson © 2013
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Steve
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What really killed the BNP for me was after the disastrous election campaign & the Question Time farce, was when Nick said something to the effect that there was a new model army that was going to rise now & take them to power.
I thought he was a fantasist & deluded, it rubbished all the effort that was put in.
The implosion of the BNP showed it couldn’t run itself, never mind the country & I walked away at that point.
But I also realised party politics is probably not going to work now, democracy is a sham.
There’s a hidden agenda that progresses no matter who’s in “power”.
The real power lies elsewhere.
Mike
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The reasons the BNP leadership weren’t murdered John is twofold. Firstly the existance of the BNP gives people a place to vent their anger, to let off steam in a non-violent manner. Secondly such an organisation is going to attract the most determined and motivated people, having all these people in one organisation makes it significantly easier for the authorities to monitor them safe in the knowledge that the organisation will never be allowed to take power.
I’ve always known winning this war would never come from the ballot box, I found it immensely frustrating for years that so many people couldn’t understand that, to think our enemies would simply hand over power to us just because the people want it is so naive it beggars belief. Decades have been wasted believing victory could come democratically.
Max Musson
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Mike, The etymology of the word ‘democracy’ derives from the Greek ‘dēmokratía’, i.e. ‘rule of the people’, which was coined from ‘dêmos’, i.e. ‘people’ and ‘kratos’, i.e. ‘power’ or ‘rule’. Our future rise to power will in fact be a restoration of ‘rule’ by the ‘people’ and so it would be wrong to say that our victory would not be achieved ‘democratically’.
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I believe you meant use the term ‘electorally’ in place of ‘democratically’ in your above post, stating that in your view we would not come to power via the ‘ballot box’.
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My belief is that the ballot box will play a significant part in our eventual rise to power, but that ‘extra-parliamentary’ pressures will also play their part in determining the outcome of our struggle. Real world power politics is rarely a simple affair and readers may be interested in my forthcoming article, ‘The Path to Power’, which should be published shortly.
Steve
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Yes, real democracy not the fake version we have now.
Steve
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“Griffin deserves your support because he is the point man, the lightening rod,”
There’s a lot of people out there who would like him to get struck by lightening!
After all that at the last election it surprises me that anyone takes him seriously.
He’s a political opportunist, the most sickening thing for me was to see his detractors proved right.
That didn’t make me side with them though, it just soured me off the BNP & party politics.
johnb
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Max,
I have no insider feeding me Nicks side of the story about the BNP. I need none. i have written and corresponded and read the writing of almost all the dissidents I have no respect for them because they act like idiots.
The neo nazis continue to put up paeans to Hitler and German national socialism. To them it is some sort of holy grail, wherein all the problems of society will disappear once the “Aryans” drive out all other races. They have no concept or belief in the Universality of sin, see none in themselves and are clinically insane.
Then there are the other self appointed icons of self righteousness who have continually blamed Nick Griffin when they did not get their own way. As you have noticed when these self important critics have attempted to set up their own political groups the results have been comedic. As I have said none of them are capable of leading a troop of boy scouts on a day hike. let alone a political party.
You cannot win politically without engaging the bulk of the regular non political people of the nation in the dialog. You do this well in your western spring Blog, but Griffin has done a far better job nation wide. A pitiful few in the nation know any of the names of these old time curmudgeons who left the BNP in a huff, but everyone in the UK knows the name of Griffin and he has the solid support of ten percent of the British people and growing behind him.
Griffin is not a Nazi, he had to put up with a lot of neo nazi crap to get the party to break through popularity wise but after the moles struck in 2010 he ruthlessly purged them.
Since his reelection he has imposed discipline on Party and proscribed unofficial views. Unfair say they. Go away and die say I, This is about having a viable party philosophy that the public will support not a free for all for radical views.
To make myself very clear to any Nazi out there, I loathe you. My mother is an English woman from London but my father was a 100 percent German Ancestored American who fought in Germany in ww2, spoke the language and served in the occupation for a year after the war. Nazis are and were the scum of the earth. Dad had the job of finding the weasels as they tried to go to ground after they lost the war. They had controlled the German population by terror and with Dads solid German background. he found it easy to find these pieces of human garbage and round them up.
The ordinary Germans feared and hated them. There was no trouble in the occupation because there was nowhere these bastards could gather and organize without scores of Germans turning them in to Dad and men like him.
The neo nazi is a mental case and is dangerous to society when given power just like the fanatics of Al Qaeda. Normal people who do not hate others because they are non white, despise these people.
Max if I have one problem with you its that you have not made it clear that race haters the “white man uber alles” types have no place in your new communities.
Fortunately most Brits are like Griffin they hate no one, they just don’t want to be squeezed out of their own land. When Nick and his band of merry men can convince them to see the present political class as the active enemy of all their aspirations they will deal with them just as they have in Bolivia and Venezuela, Viet Nam and Russia.
I hope America will wake up also. The current 91 percent opposition to Obama over his attempt to bomb Syria, including the complete hemorrhage of his young liberal political supporters, will enable us to restart the pop0litical reform movement in this nation with a lot of new younger people.
But I support Nick and care not that the current membership is under 7000 (you will find its grown a lot this year because of Rigby).
Nationalism in the UK will live or die by the choice of the majority of the people who live there. They will not make that choice until they reject the propoganda that they have been subjected to by the lib lab con establishment, but that is already happening as the huge vote for UKIP has shown. However, they will always reject extremists who deny the Holocaust or attempt to venerate Hitler.
Basically that is it. You either stand up and rid yourself of Nazis and idiots who don’t think Hitler was a murderous monster or you don’t. Your choice.
Max Musson
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John, you must be getting your information about the current state of the BNP solely from individuals still loyal to Griffin, otherwise you would not claim that the party’s membership has recovered to “under 7000”. Living in the USA, you will be unaware that across large swathes of the UK in which the BNP used to have well established branches, the party has practically ceased to exist.
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Your second mistake is to think that there was an ideological basis for Griffin’s ‘purges’ of the pre-2010 membership. Firstly, the vast bulk of the members that left were not ‘purged’, they simply walked away and refused to renew their membership. Secondly, the vast bulk of those that left could not be described as primarily ‘neo-Nazi’, there were some professed national socialists, but those who left were largely comprised of a broad range of nationalists that any leader should have wanted to retain.
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Western Spring believe that nationalist unity is vital for our success and as such we try not to distinguish or discriminate between various categories of nationalist. One of our writers, Frederick Dixon, posted an article a while ago entitled the, ‘The Twin Principles of Racial Nationalism’, in which he sets out the two principles that we use in determining who should feel welcome among our ranks: https://www.westernspring.co.uk/twin-principles-of-racial-nationalism/
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The two principle beliefs are as follows:
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1) That our racial integrity must always be protected against contamination by non-European elements; and
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2) That our homelands are for ourselves alone.
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These two principles mean that Western Spring is a ‘broad church’ and ‘home’ to a range of nationalists, some of whom will be people that you denigrate as ‘neo-Nazis’, but also people who should properly be classified as ‘racial-nationalists’, ‘ethno-nationalists’, racial-conservatives and Christian-racialists.
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Western Spring is not a political party and therefore we are freed from the constraints of pandering to the version of ‘public opinion’ peddled by the mass media, and this means we can avoid the kind of factionalism that pits, for example, ethno-nationalists and racial-conservatives against each other and against those who profess some form of national socialism.
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Of those of our followers who regard themselves as national socialists, we ask only that they express their beliefs in terms that are relevant to the current and future needs and aspirations of the European peoples and do not indulge in Third Reich oriented ‘Nazi-cultism’ of a sort that would detract from the credibility of our broader message.
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The key to success for the White nationalist movement is that we must create ‘cultural space’ in which the values underpinning racial nationalism can flourish before there is any possibility of electoral success by nationalist candidates in numbers sufficient to turn the political tide. Winning the ‘culture war’ will take time, time that demographic change as a result of uncontrolled mass immigration means we do not have, and this is why our strategy of creating enclaves is so important. Our enclaves will preserve reservoirs of our people, untainted by miscegenation, so that our people will not be genetically obliterated before the culture war is won.
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We are not a political party, we are a social movement representing the organised will of the indigenous British people. We refuse to be displaced, dispossessed and race-replaced, and we demand self-determination.
Thomas a'Becket
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A superb answer Max. I would have just dismissed johnb as a typical left wing time waster and agent provocateur.
English not British
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The active race-haters are those that have engineered mass third world immigration and the corresponding muzzling of the English people.
Steve
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He seems to have strong views on “Nazis” what about Communists & related things.
What about the stranglehold zionism has on the US or here for that matter?
Michael Woodbridge
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I’m surprised that John B is so exercised by who might be a “Nazi” or not. The Second World War was over nearly 70 years ago and just as I and many like me draw a lot of inspiration from Hitler and the Third Reich, few if any of us, would accept National Socialism as a dogma to be followed mindlessly. Rather, it might be said that National Socialism is one of many strands of ideology together with Ecology for instance, which should inform us as we devise modern ways to cope with the challenges of the 21st Century.
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National socialism seems to work in terms of restoring health to a nation. On the downside, it seems to invoke the rabid anger of the rest of the world who practice other forms of governance.
Michael Woodbridge
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We won’t win any victories by ignoring the anger of our implacable enemies. As honest, easy-going Aryans it is sometimes difficult for us to imagine just how ruthless, duplicitous and hate filled the real enemy is. Therefore there can be no real downside by our invoking the rabid anger of those who wish to destroy us. In doing so we draw them into the light where we can see them for all their ugliness. Only by confronting them on every level, subtle and less subtle, in broad daylight can we hope to destroy them.