By Katana:
Even though his popularity is at a low ebb among most nationalists, Nick Griffin makes some good points in the short but hard hitting speech given on March 13, 2014, shown in the video below. One may ask why it has taken Mr Griffin almost four years to make a speech of this kind, but the answer to that question is plain to see. He is seeking re-election in May of this year.
Transcript:
Nick Griffin: The Godfather of the European Union, Richard Coudenhouve-Kalergi, published a plan for a united Europe and the ethnocide of the peoples of Europe. The encouragement of mass non-White immigration was central to the plot. Since then an unholy alliance of leftists, capitalists and Zionist supremacists have schemed to promote immigration and miscegenation with the deliberate aim of breeding us out of existence in our own homelands. As indigenous resistance to this human genetic modification industry grows, the criminal elite seeks new ways to camouflage their project.
First, their immigrant swarms were temporary guest workers. Then it was a multiracial experiment. Then they were refugees. Then the answer to a shrinking population. Different excuses, different lies. And asylum is just another one.
For the real aim stays the same — the biggest genocide in human history. The final solution of the Christian European problem.
This crime demands a new set of Nuremberg trials. And you people will be in the dock!
Woman: Mr. President, I’m really ashamed of the racist and xenophobic terms that were used by Mr. Griffin. And my only question to him is; if he dares to make any concrete suggestions and amendments to the reservation. Is your policy serious or are just shouting and I hope you will not be re-elected if you seek re-election because it is a shame to this parliament, the kind of statements you have just made.
Nick Griffen: It is you that is shouting because obviously the truth hurts. Yes I will be seeking re-election. Yes, I hope to return here to speak up for the indigenous Europeans, which the founder of this place, has deliberately set out to wipe out. Because that is a crime, I am telling the truth. I have a constructive suggestion to help those poor asylum seekers from Africa. Yes, make it clear that they can’t come here. So that they don’t try to cross the sea and drown in huge numbers. The best way for them is to get the banks off the backs of their countries so that they can live in their countries and we Europeans can live in peace in ours.
By Katana © 2014
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As luck would have it I have just watched the above video over on Golden Dawn New York’s site: https://xaameriki.wordpress.com/ followed by Griffin’s latest speech in St Helens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAIzQi-2ZLA
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in the wider context of our struggle I am left pondering whether or not it would be positive or negative if Griffin held his seat in the E.U. parliament.
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I don’t think it is ever likely that the B.N.P. will fold, even if Griffin loses his seat. So what immediate benefit is there to him losing his seat? Also, a sizable number in the Cause are now disillusioned with electoral politics and have adopted the ‘plan B’ approach –in the main headed by M.O.N.S./Western Spring– in to which they apply their time, efforts, and finances. Put simply, many are no longer interested in parties but still, of course, remain true to the Cause. Are any of these people therefore bothered if Griffin is successful? Sure, some might want him out of nationalism all together and lose his seat as comeuppance for his dubious leadership of the B.N.P. But in preferring his losing his seat, might we not be guilty of losing sight of the bigger picture?
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As unpalatable as it is to many, Griffin has learned the ropes in the E.U. parliament and, like it or not, has made some considerable alliances with our political brethren on the continent –Golden Dawn being the most notable. As Griffin says in the St Helens video, Golden Dawn are certain to be gaining seats and will need, and thereby welcome, any support offered by those with previous experience. Furthermore, German’s NPD is also certain to make gains due to recent court rulings lowering the threshold from 5% (as it is in the U.K.) to 3% for entry into the E.U. Parliament.
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I’m certainly not admonishing Griffin’s previous acts nor even canvassing to have him re-elected. Objectively, I’m simply raising points for consideration, because I’m not altogether convinced that Griffin losing his seat would be positive in the wider context of our collective European struggle.
Max Musson
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I understand your concerns and do not doubt your sincerity vis-à-vis your disapproval of many of Griffin’s past actions. There are two aspects to consider as far as this issue is concerned.
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Firstly, that of instructing newly elected MEPs from other parts of Europe and helping them make the most of their period in office. In this respect I do not think Griffin has made any serious impact in Brussels and therefore he has relatively little to bring to the table. Prior to his election there were all sorts of flights of fancy as to what he would do as the ‘fox in the hen coup’, but he has in fact turned out to be a relatively quite, compliant and well behaved little Eurocrat – hardly an example we would want Golden Dawn to follow!
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Meanwhile his continued tenure as an MEP, in common with that of Andrew Brons, gives the BNP and the BDP an undeserved air of gravitas and an advantage in some peoples eyes over other more deserving nationalist groups including Western Spring. It also perpetuates the belief that electoral politics just might provide us with an easy route to national salvation that does not warrant anyone making any serious commitment or actual sacrifice for our cause.
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Nationalist must learn that our salvation will exact a heavy price and that we must, as adults, put aside the childish notion that we can somehow obtain a ‘free lunch’ if only we vote in the right way. The system under which we live is so rotten that only a revolution will bring about significant lasting change. Until we have built our revolutionary movement and have the six prerequisites under our belt, who does or does not take place in the ‘House of Lies and Corruption’ in Brussels should be of supreme indifference to us.
S.ducain
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The BNP has ALREADY folded, unless of course you were referring to the Bangladesh National Party. The fact that there are still some mugs actually paying membership money to the British National Party just means that those mugs have not yet woken up, smelled the coffee or whatever. There can’t be more than 1500 poor souls still in the BNP and Griffin will continue to run it as the family business until the last drop of money dries up.
S.ducain
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I once thought Gri££in was the Great White Hope of British Nationalism but sadly he soon exposed his main agenda. It appears the European gravy-train proved too tempting for him. In my view, he cannot ever again be taken seriously as a nationalist leader.
PharmaPhil
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Sorry Nick, too little, too late, you had your chance & blew it, game over, leave the field.
BritishActivism
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…..”One may ask why it has taken Mr Griffin almost four years to make a speech of this kind, but the answer to that question is plain to see. He is seeking re-election in May of this year.”.
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I think it is the other way around. You see, I think it would be a miracle if he is re-elected as an MEP.
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Therefore, if Mr Griffin is quietly aware of this looming likelihood of defeat (underneath whatever re-election-winning spin he may be giving out as leader of the party) – he may think that there’s nothing to lose in ‘letting rip’ a little bit before he goes…if only to show people that “he told it to them!”.
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Contrary to the natural applause from nationalists and supporters of the BNP (who would tend to cheer Mr Griffin delivering such a speech in the den of the EU), I seriously doubt whether the “everyday” people in the North West (who voted him in to the European Parliament last time) would be doing the same. Then the BNP was surging in popularity like UKIP is surging at the moment, but I doubt that all those voters were well versed in nationalist issues/politics and I therefore doubt they would understand the gravity of his recent speech – and I suspect that they would recoil like the head of a turtle at the sheer mention of “Zionism” or racial talk of our ‘genocide’.
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People are well trained that way. In fact, I doubt many non-avowed nationalist people who voted for him last time will have any clue as to what he is doing or will have ever listened to his speeches. For them, it will be as though Mr Griffin was elected and then just disappeared until re-election was due.
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I have to admit that I was grinning like a Cheshire cat when Andrew and Nick were elected. I remember Nick’s speech at Manchester – when all the other candidates and such decided to protest by leaving the hall, with only our supporters and a clutch of the media left to listen to what he had to say.
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It was a pretty good speech from what I recall. It was a fighting speech which was listing many things that have been done to this country – and Nick was promising that he would be lifting the lid on all the secrets and actions being done against the British people….and bringing the Eurocrats to account for it all.
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It is a shame that none of it has really transpired.
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Back then, I would have hoped that we’d have been adding more MEPs and such to the party base this time around.
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I hoped we’d be expanding the proficiency and professionalism within the BNP, generally taking that “push through” into the mainstream and running with it to a point where things never being the same again. Success was supposed to breed success and momentum.
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I never thought I would be at the stage I am now – where not only I had left the BNP, but had come to view the party and Mr Griffin to such a low light that I can hardly stand to see the man’s face (or hear his voice) any more – and couldn’t really care either way if he and the ramshackle British National Party were re-elected or not.
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However, I would not be one to cut off my nose to spite my face though. I don’t relish the prospect of him losing – because I still think that getting MEP status for Andrew and Nick was a pretty big deal for nationalism in this country.
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The way I saw it was that we at least had two people in there ‘on our side’, in positions to forge ties with other nationalists, to keep an eye out for things coming through the system, being able to be vote down harmful policies where possible, putting money back into nationalist activities with “EU money” – and generally using the MEP status and so on to get heard both here and abroad.
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Needless to say, things did not work out as I had hoped. There is nothing much positive to say about it; other than that it has given all of us some pause for thought as to what we are doing, what expectations we ought to be having and thus thinking along different lines of how to achieve some objectives and so on.
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Although most people here (including myself) will be sick and tired of politics and party elections, it may be worth us having some consensus and guidance as to what is in our wider interests when it comes to deciding who to vote for in upcoming elections.
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Do we abstain from the rotten system entirely? Do we stick with some kind of nationalist candidate where possible, purely out of principle? Do we use UKIP as a bit of a limp battering ram to try and break the doors of the ‘main three’ club?
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It is not for me to say, and nor would I really know what to suggest any more! Thinking about it objectively (and solely in terms of our interests), one of the options has to be superior to another.
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We here know that salvation is not going to be achieved through the ballot box alone – but the elections are still coming regardless of this notion. Many people will still want to vote in some way.
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The argument is currently strong for UKIP, but is it really the right long-term action to take when the time comes? Do we really shun our nationalist candidates/parties in humiliation, to favour of the fakers? Can we really use UKIP to send things more our way in this country – and how do we achieve that, rather than letting them shape wider society and politics even further against our stronger wishes when it comes to genuine nationalism?
S.ducain
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Undoubtedly UKIP is the only vessel in which nationalist aspirations can travel at present. Farage is just as patriotic as anyone else on the island, but he is smart enough to know that the way you approach the entire issue is vital. He has made UKIP acceptable to the British Establishment, for the moment.
Valhalla Valkyrie
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Farage is not a racial nationalist but a classical libertarian. If anything he has made the party more anti-immigration than less.
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He said a few months back that he might not keep his place as UKIP’s leader due to what the party membership want. As many racial nationalists have moved to UKIP they are pushing for more anti-immigration while UKIP was formed for UK independence from the EU.
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If we consider UKIP to be a safety valve from the establishment then it would be in their interests to allow Farage to get ousted and for the anti-immigration vote to go to UKIP. As the party then get’s more racial nationalist the media can then slander them as the ‘Nazi’s within’ taking over. Farage can then become some journalist, media personality or ‘anti-racist’ campaigner. The Farage personality will be used against UKIP and the media can push the narrative of ‘UKIP – what could have been’. Rebel tory voters, civic nationalists and moderates with the help of the media will then turn the blame on racial nationalists. Expect articles in the times and daily mail ‘Racists destroy UKIP’s chances’ and so on.
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UKIP for the Euro’s but wait and see for the 2015 elections.
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The BNP brand is strong though. Everyone knows about the BNP but much less about the BDP, Britain First and so on. The NF is growing back but I believe the brand that the BNP has and it’s recognition by the electorate would be the best platform if there could be a fresh new leader who is the kind that will pull the punches, will call our enemies traitors, pick them up on their hypocrisy and call out the media as lap dogs of the establishment. The party will also move back to it’s voluntary repatriation policy. Most of the electorate know little about the issues within the BNP for the last 5 years so this won’t hold them back.
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The NF are strong in many local areas and it would be good if there was perhaps a NF-BNP or NF-BDP alliance. Even if the BNP brand could not be brought back an agreement where the NF would stand candidates in their areas while the BDP or BNP goes down the suits approach to get the voters that gravitated towards UKIP. Of course this is just pushing around chess pieces on a board.
Max Musson
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Hi Valhalla Valkyrie, I suspect that we will inevitably be disappointed by what UKIP do. Together with the remnants of the BNP they stand as ‘road blocks’, blocking the path of any new civic nationalist party that may spring up (UKIP) and blocking the path of any new racial nationalist party that make spring up (BNP). This is why they exist and why the political establishment will not deliver the coup de grace in order to completely destroy the BNP or completely discredit Griffin. The existence of both the BNP (with Griffin) and UKIP serves a very useful purpose.
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No the BNP have not folded and they are more popular amongst the m,asses of the working class than ever. The Problem is that most people do not see political reality and think that it is a matter of “persuading” the power structure to do the right thing.
they fail to see the power structure as their monolithic implacable enemy. In short the public by and large believes in a fantasy that has been fed to them by the mass media.
As Nick has said the mass vote for UKIP means that millions of Britons have rejected the establishment only to have fallen for the false promises of Farage.
Griffin keeps emphasizing that UKIP is phony so when they prove it to one and all by their betrayal the BNP will be the logical alternative.
I do not give a fig for the nationalists who have jumped ship and blame Griffin for being autocratic. He has steered the Correct course and his enemies have not.
Autocracy is not a fault in the leadership of a small political party beleaguered on all sides by enemies. Indeed the example is the Front national which for Years was run extremely autocratically By Jean Le Penn. Had he not done so they would not be here today.
No the fault with all too many British nationalists is that they are far more interested in holding petty positions of power than building an army, and that stubborn independence Of which Brons is a prime example is why the BNP is not as powerful as the Front National. or Golden Dawn or Jobbick or Blams Velang.
It is an unfortunate characteristic of all to many Brits that they have almost no concept of submerging the ego and working together in a political organization.
Max Musson
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John, it’s a long time since you last graced our pages, there must be an election in the offing!
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So the BNP is an autocratic party now? Doesn’t that go against the ‘Freedom, Identity, Security, Democracy’ slogan that Griffin was championing just a few years ago?
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The problem with Griffin is not that he is autocratic, if he was honestly of that persuasion a lot of people would have regarded his actions as more honourable in the past and displaying greater integrity. Alas however, Griffin changes his tune to suit the particular gullibility of whichever audience he is addressing and this is why no one trust him anymore.
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I’m sorry, but we don’t need you to explain to us that the political establishment in this country is a monolithic edifice, and we don’t need you to tell us that UKIP is not the answer, we are well aware of that. However, we realised long ago that electoral politics is not the answer at this time either and neither is the BNP, with or without Griffin.
PharmaPhil
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Digital Alba on the British Resistance Forum site makes a prediction that Nick will put his daughter forward to take his place like Marine le Pen & the Front National.
I think that probably is his next move & possibly that would work, for him at least, I’m not sure what the rest of us would get from that.
Steven
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It will take a huge miracle for Nick Griffin to be re-elected. It was a close call last time and then the ultra-Thatcherite Tory (NOT nationalist as so many politically non-astute people think they are) cretins of UKIP were not as popular as they are now and weren’t constantly propped-up by the BBC for Machiavellian purposes (ie splitting the Tory vote) and helping to ensure an outright Labour victory next year.
I will probably vote for another anti-EU party at the Euro elections as I am quite loathe to vote UKIP as I want to see their bubble burst. The reason why is because why they are in the ascendent a genuine nationalist party can’t make any real political progress.
The BNP could have been this party if Nick Griffin had properly reformed it into being a moderate nationalist party but for some reason he didn’t do so and now UKIP has taken their place.
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What took him so long? He has had a platform for four years but wasted his opportunity.
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I hope NG can get re-elected. But many areas, like my own, the nationalist groups have been decimated 4 healthy are now one weak and ineffectual. That is why I will vote UKIP I am pretty certain the BNP will not be standing in our area anyway.
Either way the result goes for NG he must hold his head in shame, he hasn’t been the leader many prayed for and has actually put the BNP back a few decades.
We do, in my opinion,need a new nationalist party every movement needs a figurehead to rally behind.
Steven
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I will be supporting the British Democratic Party. It seems to have some good and experienced people on board like John Bean. Their website, whilst basic is fairly good. The BNP’s site used to be excellent considering they were and are only a minor party but since 2011 it has gone steadily downhill and is now littered with spelling mistakes, grammatical errors and poorly-written articles. (often on strange topics which people are not interested in) Put simply, it isn’t a good ‘shop window’ for the party like it used to be and is a perfect symbol of the party’s implosion.
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I will still vote BNP if they put-up a candidate but I don’t rate their chances of winning. Probably, the best thing to happen now would be if the BNP died a fairly dignified death as even with a new leader it isn’t going to come back.
Max Musson
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Hi Steven, Despite all they say, the BDP is simply a clone of the BNP (with Kevin Scott playing the Nick Griffin role), and actively supporting them is a waste of time, as is supporting the BNP. Please read these articles, which should put you in the picture and if you are keen to advance the cause of British nationalism please email me [email protected].
Steven
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It isn’t an exact clone of the BNP though not surprisingly it does have strong similarities as it is a nationalist party and not an ultra-Tory Thatcherite and anti-EU party like UKIP. One major difference is that it accepts the need for gay civil partnerships which makes it a great deal more moderate than the BNP was on that issue. One of the backers of the BDP is a former Tory councillor in Westminster and his experience of REAL politics may have been decisive in getting them to accept that the country has moved-on considerably in recent years with regard to this subject.
The BDP also aims to be far more democratic internally than the BNP was or is. In that way, it it does gain some traction with the electorate then talented people within the ranks can be promoted as they weren’t under Griffin.
I am under no illusions as to how difficult it will be for the BDP but it does seem to have some potential for success whereas the BNP is fatally flawed (as is UKIP in other ways) and one reason why that is the case is because Griffin runs the BNP as a kind of family business and doesn’t promote able people as he should do lest they become rivals to him (Farage is the same)
Max Musson
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The steering group that established the BDP set out to create a “BNP Mark II”, i.e. a BNP clone without Griffin at the helm. These were the kind of words they used during their initial discussions. Therefore, irrespective of what they may say publicly now, that is the reality of the situation. You will notice that the three letter abbreviation by which the organisation is known, is but one letter different from that of the organisation upon which it was modelled.
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You are correct that on the relatively insignificant issue of homosexual rights, the BDP does differ from the BNP and that is because the man who played a central role in setting up the new party and initially had ambitions to lead it, is himself a homosexual, unlike to ex-Tory councillor to whom you refer.
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The BDP claim to be more democratic, but in reality the party’s formation was marred by dishonest behind the scenes manoeuvrings, and this is one reason why the homosexual aspirant leader eventually declined to lead the party. The party does have some talented people, but unfortunately few with any originality, as is shown by the fact that they modelled the new party on the BNP.
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It is true that the BDP is not run as a ‘family business’ in the way that the BNP allegedly is, however it suffers the added electoral disadvantage of trying to establish itself, while offering the voting public nothing tangible that the BNP and UKIP don’t already offer. Being slightly more warm and welcoming to homosexuals is not a strong enough USP (Unique Selling Point) to outweigh the disadvantages I have already outlined.
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Let me point out to you again Steven, that making mere homosexuality a non-issue as far as our movement is concerned, is as far as we should go. Any organisation that goes further than that; tolerating people who make their homosexuality the central issue of their world view; tolerating people who wish to parade their sexual abnormality in public; and formulating party policy with the sensibilities of homosexuals uppermost, will not only be wrong ideologically, it will also suffer for such foolishness at the polls. Far more votes will be lost from members of the public that find blatant homosexuality distasteful than will be gained from people for whom homosexual rights have importance. Far more, by at least an order of magnitude and possibly by two orders of magnitude.
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If you want your views to be respected by fellow nationalists therefore, you need to become ‘Steven, the nationalist who is discretely homosexual and who never normally mentions the fact’, rather than ‘Steven, the homosexual who cannot seem to write about his nationalism without raising the matter of his sexuality’.
vic
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That stupid woman probably doesn’t know anything about the master plan.
Basel Alenby Johnson [ B A J A
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A revolution needs a revolution of the mind in thinking before you hit the streets
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I have refrained from making any criticisms of Griffin and the poor BNP, there are so very many points to make. First regarding Griffin’s MEP success, this was announced when a decisive 5000 vote from Oldham was counted to which Griffin reportedly giggled, saying We no longer have a branch there’ . Only two or so years previously that branch was a strong one with five second places and one very near success in council elections. It caused upset nationwide, but a Labour spokesman said ‘ Don’t worry about them, the PM knows how to deal with the BNP’. Within no time the branch did not exist. Then we saw the major triumph of a GLC seat held by Richard Barnbrook with whom Griffin seemed to fall out . Barnbrook was dedicated and fought to retain his membership afterwards sitting as an independent. A true leader would be concerned at people giving up their memberships and certainly wouldnt be expelling good members. There are so very many points of criticism, but space will not allow it.
katana
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Nick Griffin continues his recent straight talk at the European Congress in Kirchheim, Thuringia, Saturday, March 22, 2014. This time on the Ukraine situation.
Germany: Ukrainian nationalists are being used by the EU – Nick Griffin
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6Ir2rWzkFk]
Here’s the transcript of his interview:
Nick Griffin: [loud background noise] … it’s by Globalists, Zionists, the European Union, … they are not in the least bit interested in Ukrainian freedom. They are interested in using Ukrainian nationalism as a way of attacking Russia, of provoking Russia, so that they continue with the Project for a New American Century [PNAC] campaign to hem Russia in to destroy Russia. Particularly to destroy Putin.
[loud background noise]
When a group of nationalists start saying, “We want to be part of the European Union, we ought to be part of NATO”, they cease in my eyes to be nationalists. They cross the red line and they are in the wrong. I wouldn’t want to fight them, but I would urge them to wake and smell the coffee. And understand that NATO and the EU aren’t interested in protecting the rights of Ukraine. They want to loot the Ukraine. They want the oligarchs to be allowed to loot the Ukraine, and they want to use it as a stepping stone to attack Russia.
… by all means campaign for a truly independent Ukraine which isn’t dominated by either Wall Street, and the Western banks and Brussels, … or Moscow, fair enough. But don’t be used as a tool for American imperialism, which is what we are in now.
… the nationalist principle is self determination. The people of Crimea has spoken, it’s clear what they want. They want to go back to mother Russia and I support that right.
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Mike Newland
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Griffin’s speech was not motivated by any suddenly discovered principles but the fact that his mass support has gone and he’s now looking to make money out of the tiny numbers who think a politics based on talking about Zionist plots and so on can succeed.
It’s a retreat into the customary ‘true British nationalist’ ghetto.in which it’s been mired for most of its existence.
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I have not been a fan of his since he and his lackys attacked jonathan bowden, And it cannot be forgotton.
But this speech was a good one, Well played mr griffin, well played.