By Max Musson:
Many people will be saddened and dismayed by the news of the shooting that took place at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina on Wednesday, in which a young White man, Dylann Roof, murdered nine of the church’s Negro congregation in cold blood.
During the shooting in which Roof allowed one member of the congregation to escape, to “tell the world what happened”, Roof is alleged to have told his victims: “I have to do it. You rape our women and you’re taking over our country. And you have to go”, and so it would appear he had a racial motive for his actions. Also, Roof’s college room-mate told ABC News that Roof had been ‘planning something like that for six months’.
“He was big into segregation and other stuff,” the roommate, Dalton Tyler, said. “He said he wanted to start a civil war. He said he was going to do something like that and then kill himself.”
So what are we White racialists to make of these events?
Firstly we have to look at Roof’s motivations and acknowledge that in the USA a transformation of society is taking place, just as it is throughout the Western World in which the demographic status quo is being reversed, that based on current trends American society and the societies of every other Western nation will within the foreseeable future become majority non-White.
The situation in the USA is somewhat different to other Western states in that there has been a sizeable Negro population for hundreds of years since the days of slavery, but that non-White population is bourgeoning with the arrival in the USA of an unprecedented number of illegal immigrants from Africa, South America and Asia, and in effect this is nothing short of an invasion, just as Europe and other Western States are subject to an invasion of refugees, asylum seekers, economic migrants and illegal immigrants – call them what you will.
We humans are territorial creatures – nature made us this way – and throughout our long evolution, it has been the role of young men to defend our lands from foreign invasion. It is only natural therefore that young men today will feel an instinctive need to take up arms and to drive out those they see usurping our living space and crowding us out of our traditional homelands. Clearly however in this modern age in which governments have become divorced from the needs of our people, and in which governments no longer concern themselves with the genetic survival of our kind, the situation is more complex and where young men would once have been applauded for their patriotism, they are instead denigrated and criminalised.
I am not suggesting that in 21st Century Britain and America we should condone our young men taking up arms and attacking people of ethnic minority, but in a healthy society, which acknowledges healthy instincts, there should be scope for our people to express our opposition to the current demographic transformation of our homelands. Opposition to the entry to our countries by people who are racially, ethnically and in terms of religion and lifestyle completely different to our own should be regarded as a legitimate and respectable political position, and those who voice such opposition should not face denigration, marginalisation and ultimately criminalisation for our beliefs.
At the very least, people who do not want to live in a multiracial society should be allowed within the law to establish all White communities from which people of alien race and ethnicity are excluded. If this was permitted, those people who wish to live in a multiracial environment could do so, and those who do not could also do as they wish. There would be freedom of choice.
However there is no freedom of choice allowed, we White people are being forced to live in a multiracial society, whether we wish to or not. The multiracial and multicultural regime under which we live is a totalitarian regime and those who oppose it are either treated as pariahs, marginalised or criminalised for our beliefs.
Any society that attempts to use the force of law to stifle the expression of normal, healthy, instinctive behaviour, which criminalises the expression of opinions as ‘hate speech’, and which imposes a totalitarian regime upon it’s people to suppress freedom of expression will inevitably experience regrettable instances such as happened last Wednesday, in which having no legitimate outlet for their feelings, individual young men find themselves unable to suppress their instinctive drives and end up committing regrettable acts of violence against those they perceive to be threatening the survival and wellbeing of our people.
Our reaction should therefore be one of regret for what has happened, one of sorrow for the lives taken and one of sorrow also for Dylann Roof, a young man whose life has now been ruined, because Dylann Roof is as much a victim in this situation as the people he so misguidedly shot.
It is a source of dismay for me that this shooting will be used as propaganda by our mass media and political establishment to further demonise White racialists in the eyes of the wider public and consequently one of my greatest sources of dismay is that in venting his frustrations, Dylann chose to kill a group of Black people who are evidently among the least objectionable Black people one could find. In the eyes of the wider public there will be no mitigating factors here, as there might have been if Dylann had chosen to shoot some of the Black people who have actually been responsible for “raping our women” and for committing other dastardly crimes against our people – the kind of crimes that even the most liberal person could not fail to acknowledge as crimes.
So my message to any other young White men who find themselves struggling to contain their instincts, is that they should seek help from racially conscious White leaders who can assist them in directing their energies into something constructive, but if they really cannot contain themselves any longer and must visit violence upon somebody, at least have the courage, the common sense and decency to select appropriate targets. Don’t do the cowardly thing and shoot defenceless God fearing men, women and children in their churches and places of worship, find some drug pushers, some pimps, some thieves or muggers — or find a corrupt politician – but visit your violence upon somebody who deserves it, so we can at least respect you for it afterwards.
By Max Musson © 2015
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Rerevisionist
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You’re assuming this event was genuine. There have been enough false flags by now (for such purposes as gun control) to ensure anyone should be sceptical.
Rerevisionist
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=77&v=eOHzvi4Jxpo
Amateur video: what you missed by the ‘news’ covering the alleged shooting.
Dan England
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Another rod to beat the white man with, when are idiots like this going to get some sense? Even what you say-about directing his anger at those mostly responsible for where we find ourselves at this present time,even just thinking that could be classed as subversive.
When you think of all those strange gun toting groups in that land of the free, why did he not join one of those, they may have been able to direct his energies for a time when needed and those people might still be alive.
Stefan
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Yes this pointless atrocity plays into the hands of our enemies & also allows them to push for gun control.
Anyway I thought it would ultimately be the Latinos that would become the dominant group in the US?
It does look like a perfect storm is brewing, inciting Blacks to rise up as Obama hasn’t really delivered?
Stefan
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Now that’s strange…
“Dylann Roof’s friend: ‘He never said anything racist'”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33209654
Liam Kernaghan
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Socially conservative, community-oriented and indeed aspirant Black Americans were needlessly targeted.
WHY?
The perpetrator is according to some, socially naive;
“Listen to us little man! your moment of glory awaits you!” And then for the first time in his life, Dylann Storm Roof suddenly becomes BIG AND IMPORTANT.
The unfortunates targeted by Dylann Storm Roof were almost certainly opposed to political correctness and forced integration as those reading this site. It is highly improbable that the young male relatives of the church congregation were actively encouraged to date white women, let alone rape them – as Roof intimated.
INMHO, Dylann Storm Roof had been GROOMED, either by hardly more sophisticated peers at ground level wanting a quick and exciting fix, or perhaps by a more sinister hand working through the former.
Something like this was inevitable for Dylann and everyone else under the circumstances.
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A point that has been overlooked in this article, and elsewhere in commentary on this issue by our like-minded folk, is that the first released photo of Dylan Roof showed him wearing a jacket emblazoned with the original flags of South Africa and Rhodesia.
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From this image and the surname “Roof” we can perhaps assume that he is of Dutch extraction. Is this recent unconscionable violence in retaliation for the ethnic cleansing of Whites in southern Africa[1]?
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[1] https://www.change.org/p/european-commission-allow-all-white-south-africans-the-right-to-return-to-europe https://sarahmaidofalbion.blogspot.co.uk/
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Charleston Shooting: What They’re Not Telling You: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsTykXcyLXQ
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“If you are for gun control, then you are not against guns, because the guns will be needed to disarm people. So it’s not that you are anti-gun. You’ll need the police’s guns to take away other people’s guns. So you are very pro-gun, you just believe that only the Government (which is, of course, so reliable, honest, moral and virtuous) should be allowed to have guns. There is no such thing as gun control. There is only centralizing gun ownership in the hands of a small, political elite and their minions.” — Stefan Molyneux.
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https://www.counter-currents.com/2015/06/the-charleston-church-massacre/
Stefan
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Yes the police & military are very trustworthy with guns…sometimes!
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Ultimately all this lad did was, besides from causing misery for the families and friends of his victims, was hand a massive propaganda victory to those who would disarm American citizens (thus potentially making it harder to defend against endemic black on white violence!) and those who would see any opposition to white replacement marginalised and even imprisoned for expressing dissent.
He could have been of use to people, let out his frustration on digital enemies or paintballing while channelling the bulk of his energies into preparing for an eventuality where the very lives of his friends and neighbours are at risk (the Federal government are stockpiling large caches of weapons and ammunition) Instead he has handed the enemy a win. Bloody idiot.
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The so called ‘Elites’ are toasting this young man behind closed doors, the white guilt traction they’ll get from this is incalculably huge and they’ll use it to continue to stoke up the race war they’re so desperately after within the US whilst continuing to completely bury the epidemic of black on white crime. The Zionist/Communist media, as usual, are up to their eyeballs in it. When you look at all the insanity going on in the world today it’s so obvious that it’s all being orchestrated by these so called ‘elites’, I do wish people could see it because it will end very badly unless people wake up. We really do live in one very sick world, some people are just so thoroughly twisted it beggars belief.
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While understanding your cause, but not agreeing with it personally—I realize this is a s a huge blow to your movement.
No rational person can quite wrap their mind around what this killer Dylann Storm Roof did. It’s one thing to go into a movie theater or school and shoot randomly at people, but to sit down in a church spend an hour with the faithful speaking about the bible and praying and then to kill them face to face execution style in cold blood. It really is beyond comprehension and pure evil. It’s unfortunate that he will always be aligned with your political agenda and ultimately undermine your movement’s credibility
I do hope that one day white nationalists and their sympathizers (like Dylann Storm Roof) will be able to find a place to call home, where there exists only the purity of the white race. I believe this to be possible. I would suggest a kickstarter campaign to purchase an island. There are so many that have not been discovered!
The very small percentage of folk who feel as you all do, and I would think it’s about .01% or less of the caucasian population, would find a happy home and would not bother or give a bad name to the rest of us whites who will certainly not miss your absence from society.
Max Musson
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You are wrong Amy, you see if you were to speak to most White people in an environment in which they do not feel intimidated by the fear of being reported to the authorities, upwards of 85% of them would express views consistent with ours here at Western Spring. The White nationalist movement often seems small to outsiders because we are only composed of the small percentage of our race who have the will and courage to reject oppression rather than submit to it.
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We White nationalists certainly can create our own consciously White communities, and we could live in obscurity should we choose, but this would have to be done secretly as the regime you defend is as I have indicated in my article, a totalitarian regime that does not permit open dissent, no matter how peaceful, no matter how obscure. The culturally Marxist liberal totalitarianism that holds sway throughout the West has implemented legislation that allows no exceptions. No community, no work-place, no place of business, no school or church is legally allowed unless it submits to multiracialism. The creation of remote and secret island communities that leave the majority of Western societies as they are would therefore not prevent more shootings. The Dylann Roofs of this world would not know of their existence.
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You see, Dylann Roof is not an active White nationalist, and I did not write my article in an attempt to justify the actions of ‘one of our own’. If Dylann Roof was ‘one of ours’, he would have been in contact with other White nationalists and would have found a constructive outlet for his frustrations. He is however one of many millions of young White men, who in the absence of community with sympathetic fellow Whites, can see no constructive way forward and therefore bottle-up their frustrated racial feelings until they become uncontrollable and eventually overwhelm them, leading to the commission of atrocious acts.
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Dylann Roof and those like him are yours, they belong to the society that you condone and our absence will change nothing for people like you and people like him. The isolated and increasingly psychotic Dylann Roofs will still be living among those such as you who choose to feebly submit to comply with totalitarianism. It is not White nationalists who give White people a bad name, it is people like you. People who help to perpetuate the unnatural conditions that turn some otherwise healthy young White men into killers.
Walter Greenway
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Very true Max.
Folkvar
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A superb and accurate response Max.
Dan England
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Max absolutely right,people like this are killing our society,they seem to live in some parallel dimension,and if their backgrounds were analised you might find their true ethnic identity.
These are the haters,the kinky characters who despise this country, benevolence to them is a weakness,they can’t stand the tolerance that has been shown to them.
Stefan
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Well we have several islands already but strange enough non Whites just won’t leave us be!
I guess you haven’t yet seen the downside of the multi cultural experience…yet.
Dan England
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They say that the isle of Wight could house the whole worlds population if cramed shoulder to shoulder,I suggest that some smaller island like St Kilder in the Atlantic might be a good place to house imagrints and their suporters.
Of course they would think different as they bieve that the whole world revolves around them.
This is Scottish territory and we all know the Scottish National Party want imagrants to infest their land.
ahoppy
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Thank you for the reply. I did not say that Dylann Roof was a white nationalist, but a sympathizer, as he seems to have no ties to any formal organization. His hatred and energies as you say were misdirected, still tarnish any respectability that people (white people) outside of your organization and other similar organizations will ever have for such groups.
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Regardless, I find it perplexing that white nationalists truly believe that at this point in time there is any hope for segregation between the multitude of non-white populations that are here in the United States and Europe for good. If the population of white nationalists and sympathizers were to be broken down to a percentage, it is likely a very small percentage of the white population. How would you suggest recreating a white homogeneous enclave for people who do believe as you do if not for creating your own quasi-state on private land? As you rightly mentioned the laws of most countries will not allow for this, so again, I am curious what the real solution is as you see it? And if you were to succeed in finding a place such as private land/an island, etc where you all could live without us “feeble whites who comply to totalitarianism” and the rest of the non-white population, I do think it would be well known enough for people like Roof to know about it and travel there to live in peace. It seems like a logical solution to me, as it’s not going to happen in the countries we live in now that are so racially diverse– it’s just way too late to turn back the clock. I am sure you would have the support of people like myself, and the races you so desperately want to live apart from. So please do let the rest of us non-courageous feeble minded whites, bending to a regime set on desecrating and ruining the “white race”, what plans do you have that are realistically possible to separate yourselves from the rest of a multicultural world?
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And on a side note, I am not for gun control. I come from a family of gun owners, and don’t see this as an issue at all in this case. Guns will always find a way of falling into the hands of people who seek them on the black market or elsewhere.
Max Musson
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Hi Amy, It seems that you did not grasp one of the points I made previously, which is that the vast majority of White people today regard the mass immigration that has been taking place in recent decades has been an unmitigated disaster and with hindsight, they would strive to prevent it if we had our time over again. Indeed, most would also support moves to reverse the immigration that has taken place, if that could be achieved, and this is why so much energy is invested by the mass media and our political establishments, to make people believe the demographic changes that have already occurred are irreversible, so that people won’t be tempted to try.
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Furthermore, you have failed to realise the urgency and fervour with which our political enemies work to prevent any dissent from the totalitarian regime they are engaged in imposing as all such regimes know that the existent of any dissention against their will would act as a stimulus for increased dissention in other quarters. This is why the ‘race relations’, so-called ‘anti-hate’ legislation that exists requires all public bodies to seek out and close down any organisations that dissent on racial issues, and why any White enclaves that we create will need to remain a secret, unknown to the wider population and therefore unknown to the Dylann Roofs of this world.
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The purpose of the regime isn’t as they state to create a ‘diverse’ society, because if that was so, they would allow measures that would facilitate the preservation of different racial groups including Whites, i.e. they would happily permit the existence of Whites only institutions and White enclaves within a multicultural and multiracial wider society. The regime are aware however that should all White institutions or all White enclaves be legally permitted, then a large proportion of White people would flock to them. Rather than ‘diversity’, the aim of the regime is simply the eventual elimination of White people. They permit Black only institutions and Black only neighbourhoods and they allow all other ethnic minorities to organise in a similar way, but not White people. It is for this reason that more Dylann Rooks will spontaneously occur among the oppressed White masses who are deprived of leadership.
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The hope of the regime is that White people will eventually miscegenate to such an extent that we become extinct and that our mixed race children will be absorbed into the remaining non-White ethnicities, so when they speak of ‘diversity’, what they actually mean is ‘an absence of White people’. The creation of all White enclaves is therefore not simply something that we view as a ‘nice to have’, they are something that will become increasingly essential if any White people at all are to survive beyond the middle of this century. You may not view this as a problem, but you will when you realise that life in your neighbourhood will eventually come to resemble life in one of those Black neighbourhoods that you currently excuse because of your naïve belief in the White oppression of Black people.
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If you want to find out how we intend to achieve our goals, you can turn to the ‘About us’ page of this website and read some of the articles to be found there, especially under Prerequisite Two. Suffice to say here that it is never too late. All things are possible if we set our minds to achieving them.
Dan England
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It seems that whatever you say Max she has no intention of heeding it,she keeps using this percentage thing where does she get her information other than some leftist rant at one of their meetings.
Stefan
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I would agree with her comments on gun control but if she is US based then the situation with regards to race is different to here in Europe.
WE live in our homelands, she in the historical sense doesn’t as she is an immigrant in some form, so I guess a Black person can equally claim it too, “We didn’t want to come here, we were forced but now we’re here, we claim it along with equal rights”.
Obviously the original native inhabitants have lost out in all of this.
For some of us the water is muddied by immigration in the past but broadly speaking White people are Europeans & we want to live here, I think we would also welcome back other Europeans who might want to return home too.
The Africans have Africa, the Chinese have China & so on, why can’t we have Europe?
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Hi Max,
This time you are the one who is mistaken. I certainly grasp the point you made previously- that “the vast majority of white people today regard the mass immigration that has been taking place in recent decades has been an unmitigated disaster.” However I think that your use of the term “vast” is very much open to debate. You also said in the first response to my comment on this thread “You are wrong Amy, you see if you were to speak to most white people in an environment in which they do not feel intimidated by the fear of being reported to the authorities, upwards of 85% of them would express views consistent with ours here at Western Spring.”
I find that highly unlikely. Do you have statistics? As a previous commenter was asking for my statistics, claiming they came from some ranting left wing group I attend, which is certainly not the case. I estimated that the whites who would feel the same as you are a very small minority based on the cultural climate and views of people who live in several cities I have lived in within the United States. Although I do not have any statistics to back this up it is my general view that the population would be so low as to be less than 1%, though I could be wrong and am open to being corrected. I would love to see your research/statistics on the number you put forth of 85% of whites wanting to segregate.
I am all for white enclaves creating their own “zion-like” state. Whether they be on an island or a part of Europe. The question still remains–how will this happen? The Scots and Irish can’t even break themselves from the rule of the crown, how are white nationalists going to be able to rule semi- autonomous enclaves?
Donor funding to create these white enclaves obviously can’t happen fast enough to realize your ideal, and to what political end, to ultimately fall into someone’s coffers? What headway have you actually made in the last many years to create such enclaves with these donations?
Would love to know what communities you are creating, what outreach organizations are being funded and sponsorships to move people into such places. It’s unfortunate that Dylann Roof did not find some relief from your donors. As I am positive he was well aware of Western Spring.
Max Musson
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Hi Amy,
I have conducted a great amount of door-step canvassing of people’s views and I have also had the opportunity throughout my former career to discuss politics with people in the privacy of their own homes and in circumstances in which I was able to indicate to them that they need not feel constrained by ‘political correctness’. In such circumstances, somewhere in the order of 85% of indigenous White British people will express a deeply felt dislike of mass non-White immigration and the demographic transformation that is taking place in our country. The proof that my estimations are correct, comes from the fact that successive Labour, Tory and coalition governments have felt it necessary through the introduction of increasingly Draconian anti-‘hate speech’ and anti-discrimination legislation, to increasingly suppress the expression of these feelings held by so many of our people.
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If as you assert, only a tiny minority of people shared our views, then our views would not be considered ‘dangerous’ and our views would not need to be suppressed. We could be allowed to speak out freely and governments would allow the spontaneous derision of the majority to shut us up. However governments regard our views as dangerously seductive and persuasive and this is because all of the genuine research into public opinion — research conducted by academics in circumstances where the subjects concerned are made to feel confident they can express their true feelings without fear of retribution — supports our assertions, not yours.
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Furthermore, the very fact that you feel compelled to return here to repeatedly argue your case and to now attempt to cast aspersions upon the honesty of our project, strongly indicates that our arguments are a little too persuasive for your liking. Unable to effectively counter our arguments, you are apparently switching to an ad hominem form of attack. Ludicrously, you are now even claiming knowledge of what Dylann Roof did or did not know, which is so patently ridiculous it suggests a marked degree of desperation on your part.
ahoppy
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Hi Max,
Can you please provide me with the data you claim of “genuine research into public opinion — research conducted by academics in circumstances where the subjects concerned are made to feel confident they can express their true feelings without fear of retribution — supports our assertions, not yours.”
I am sure this research is anonymous, if it was done properly. And thus, should be available to back up your cause. If you can’t provide this data, it’s really hard to believe anything you put forth as being statistically accurate.
Max Musson
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Hi Amy, I don’t need to go into any great depth here, you see if as you contend, racial feelings among White people are virtually non-existent, there would rarely be any university studies into issues surrounding racism; the racial attitudes of White people etc., and we would rarely hear assertions by academics, or even non-academic advocates for non-White minority groups for that matter, complaining about ‘institutional racism’ and the like. However simply Google: ‘university study institutional racism’ and see the 2,410,000 results that come back.
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Furthermore, as I have already stated, if your perception really is that our views have no traction with the White public in general, why are you wasting your time trying to disparage what we think? Surely you must have more pressing issues to attend to? The very fact that you continually reply, time and time again, each time with another lame challenge, proves that you believe our views are both compelling and dangerously seductive. Thank you for providing that proof, and please keep coming back. In fact, why don’t you get all of your friends to visit us and whine about how unimportant and insignificant we are also? That would be fun as I could make even more of you look stupid! 😉
Stefan
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The other thing about the US or Canada is that the land mass can hide what is going on, so that Amy can avoid the worst of multiculturalism.
Whereas I can find myself in an African market or a Pakistani one in little more than minutes & they weren’t put there for my benefit.
Some people might like this “vibrant diversity” but I don’t feel it has a place here or belongs here.
I heard on the TV someone saying because some non White was born here, they’re British, well for the moment, as we see plenty of people get run out of their own countries, so I don’t think the situation is as irreversible as they think it is.
Plenty of Jews went elsewhere at the end of WW2 as did 12 million ethnic Germans.