An article featured on the Heritage & Destiny website, begins: “This week’s elections have been a disaster of historic proportions for the British nationalist movement, forcing a serious rethink of our whole strategy and organization”, and clearly, while it does not please us to say this, the results detailed in that Heritage & Destiny article are a vindication of the strategic approach that we at Western Spring have been advocating for some time now.
The vote received by the BNP mayoral candidate David Furness was just 0.5% and that party’s GLA List vote was not much better, at 0.6%, meaning that an election campaign that must have cost the BNP upwards of £75,000 was a complete waste of time and money.
Although the anti-Islamic party, Britain First, engaged in a much more vociferous campaign, the vote for their mayoral candidate Paul Golding was just 1.2% and their GLA List vote just 1.5%, again meaning that upwards of another £75,000 was effectively poured down the drain.
The lost deposit required for the London mayoral election would have been £10,000 for each of the above parties’ candidates, and the deposits for the List candidates would have been £5,000. If we add to this the cost of sending just one election address to each London household, at 2p per leaflet, that equates to a further £60,000 lost.
The civic nationalist party, the English Democrats contested four Police and Crime Commissionerships and overall their candidates received a shade under 5% of the vote with two candidates losing their substantial £5,000 deposits. The Electoral Commission inform us that the average spent on Crime & Police Commissioner elections is £11,250 per candidate. These four elections will therefore have cost the English Democrats approximately £55,000 in total assuming their campaign spending was in line with the average.
In addition to these losses, there were a further fifty or so nationalist candidates standing in local elections that the overwhelming majority had no hope in hell of winning, and at a cost of just c. £250 per candidate for election addresses, this produces further expense running to £12,500.
Lastly, if we assume a total of say, 10,000 man hours of leafletting, doorstep canvassing, other forms of campaigning, attending counts etc., at the minimum wage of £7.20 per hour, this equates to a loss of approximately £72,000 in potential lost earnings for the activists involved.
The total cost of this electoral fiasco was therefore, somewhere in the region of £349,500, enough to buy around a dozen two/three-bedroomed terraced houses in the embryonic White enclave being established by White Independent Nation (WIN) in Durham! Enough to employ more then twenty full-time nationalist activists on the minimum wage, for a year!
Given that the vast majority of these nationalist candidates had no realistic hope of being elected and that their participation in the elections went largely unreported by the media and resulted in humiliatingly low levels of support from the electorate, and given the small fortune that has been squandered, we must begin to question the sanity of the nationalist political parties and the individual candidates involved.
We have as a movement squandered more money than most of our members as individuals will ever see in their entire lifetimes. It is a tragedy that we have repeatedly done this in the past, but it would be a criminal dereliction of duty if we were to ever do it again!
We must stop squandering our members money on hopeless Don Quixote-like ‘tilting at windmills’, and we must stop squandering our members idealism and goodwill by giving them false hope, where no hope currently exists, and leading them down blind alleys to certain electoral defeat.
I call upon individual nationalists and the leaders of other nationalist groups to contact me at [email protected] so that we can hold a conference of nationalist unity later this year and make arrangements for our whole movement to adopt the alternative, non-electoral strategies that I have outlined in my many articles.
By Max Musson © 2016
NB: Two party officials have contacted me since the publication of this article, one to inform me of a minor statistical error and another to indicate that their campaign spending was in fact vastly in excess of the above estimates. If any party wishes to challenge the gist of my argument above, and in doing so would like to furnish me with their actual campaign spending figures, I will be happy to make the necessary corrections.
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Stefan
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I think John Lennon said “Life happens while you make other plans”, so “Elections happen while we make other plans.”
Frederick Dixon
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It seems much longer than just eight years ago since the BNP won a seat on the GLA., and a very long time indeed since the NF first came to widespread public attention by pushing the Liberals (as they then were) into fourth place in the GLC elections of 1977. Quite apart from the changing demography of London – and the country – the reason is not far to seek,namely the rise of a “respectable” alternative patriotic party in the form of UKIP. The position is not helped by the fractured and disputatious nature of the various tiny nationalist fragments.
At present there is nothing to be done about this except to go on doing what Western Spring is already doing, or trying to do – acting as an umbrella group for all nationalists, helping some with seed money, and keeping the ideology alive while infiltrating it into mainstream discourse. In time, particularly if we get Brexit, UKIP will fade or morph into something else. The something else which is so obviously lacking is a patriotic alternative to Labour; I hesitate to use the words “national socialist” because of their hideous associations, but that is what I mean (in the nicest possible way!)
If UKIP does move towards soft “national socialism” then true racial nationalists will continue to lack an electoral outlet, but perhaps it won’t matter? If UKIP doesn’t move in that direction then there will be an opening, but it’s very difficult to see any of the little nationalist grouplets – who all seem to hate each other – being in a position to take advantage.
That is why Max’s proposed initiative is so important, We must all continue to follow Western Spring’s non-electoral strategy because it is so difficult to see any alternative.If a genuine electoral opportunity presents itself at some time in the unforseeable future then Western Spring, with its pan-nationalist contacts, will be in a position to help cross that bridge at that time.
Louis
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Brexit? I registered for a postal vote to vote out but have only managed to vote ukip in local elections and have heard nothing since ! Not long left so how am I to vote please let me know if you’ve any idea what is happening regarding postal votes.
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In this area we had a vote on the election of Crime & Police Commissioner. I don’t even know who the candidates were! I don’t know their backgrounds. I don’t know their policies. I had no one knock at the door. I saw no posters anywhere. And I saw nothing in the Wiltshire Times or the various ‘freeby’ papers. My feeling was that if they couldn’t be bothered to canvass, then I couldn’t be bothered to vote. Perhaps this is the wrong attitude, but I refuse to put my cross against just any name. The very least I want to know is about the candidates policies, and what he/she stands for. Don’t worry. I will be there on 23rd June voting OUT!!!! I definitely know what that is about.
Stefan
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Yes that’s definitely the important one!
SerpentSlayer
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It is a phenomenal waste of money and effort. I feel like there is so much more that could be done, instead of throwing money at a system rigged against us. I feel the propaganda war is by far the most crucial, if we had the majority of our people at least sympathetic to our aims it would be impossible for the state to stop us from seizing power. All they could do in that situation is determine the means left to us to achieve it. I do hope Nationalist groups can cooperate, only then can we have the capability to form a revolutionary council to dictate the efforts of the entire movement and finally bring about the coming of the people’s state.
John S.
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In light of Britain First’s patriotardism, wouldn’t they have been better off using their estimated £75,000 + £60,000 to promote the Jewish candidate Zac Goldsmith, and in turn oppose the Islamic candidate, Khan? Anti-Islam is their modus operandi, remember.
See for yourselves. This is where the rejection of the reality of race, and instead the concentration upon the symptoms rather than the cause, gets you: https://www.britainfirst.org/britain-first-jewish-activists-take-part-in-counter-protest-against-pro-palestine-extremists-in-london/
Max Musson
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Just to correct a point, the estimated £60,000 spend on election addresses is included in the estimated £75,000 costs for the mayoral and GLA List candidates. However, yes, it could be construed as logical, given Britain First’s pro Israel, and anti Islamic stance for them to have done as you have suggested.
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Thank you and H&D for having the courage to state this disconcerting truth that often needs to be emphasised.
I can only conclude that it is up to the membership of each organisation to resolve this squandering of assets. In a recent podcast it was suggested that the BNP is sitting upon, waiting for, bequests from the many who pledged during the party’s heyday and that the only reason BNP now persists is to achieve this end. Whether or not this is true, and whether or not goes into party official’s pockets or BNP coffers for more squandering is irrelevant in the context of our struggle (either way it will be wasted –if it is not invested wisely into extra-parliamentary struggle– and there will be a grave injustice to the donors who worked hard for that money and were so honourable in bequeathing it.)
The conference that Max suggests is paramount. I think this will be our greatest step forward out of the darkness of electioneering and into the light of a much-needed Plan B that is proposed here: https://www.westernspring.co.uk/test-page/
I leave you with this final truism that may or may not seriously compel you all to think wisely and act accordingly. Who amongst us burns our money?:
“The total cost of this electoral fiasco was therefore, somewhere in the region of £359,500, enough to buy around a dozen two/three-bedroomed terraced houses in the embryonic White enclave being established by White Independent Nation (WIN) in Durham! Enough to employ two dozen full-time nationalist activists on the minimum wage, for a year!”
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I propose a website that is in tune with Western Spring but is not curtailed by the oppressive laws we have to suffer: https://www.europeancivilwar.com/
Plan B seems to be the order of the day.
Max Musson
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I wouldn’t describe that website as ‘in tune’ with Western Spring, although I can see why you might think it is.
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We recognise the ongoing gradual decline of Western civilisation, and if current trends continue, we foresee the inevitable consequence of this being a descent into chaos and corruption, accompanied by inter-ethnic violence and ultimately civil war. We urge our people to join us in building an organisation that can stop and reverse the decline, and which will prepare them for a worst case scenario, should it already be too late to avoid the nightmare that looms. However, there is an ocean of difference between this realistic and responsible stance and a stance that appears to relish the approaching ‘shit-hits-the-fan’ moment and the bloodshed that would follow.
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As each day passes, with the influx of yet more belligerent and intolerant African and Asian men of military age from countries that are war-torn, it does look increasingly likely that we face a dark and violent future, but we should look at what happened during the Balkan conflict, at what happened in Chechnya, at what is going on in Syria today, and we must always have as our primary goal the avoidance of civil war if it is at all possible.
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My abiding hope is that we will acquire the Six Prerequisites relatively quickly and can bring about the salvation of our people before bloodshed becomes inevitable and unavoidable. Acquiring the Six Prerequisites must therefore be our priority at this time, for with them we can win, but without them, we (i.e. our people – the indigenous peoples of Europe) will lose any civil war that comes too soon.
Richard Edmonds
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“This week’s elections have been a disaster of historic proportions for the British nationalist movement, forcing a serious rethink of our whole strategy and organization”.
As one of the candidates standing in these elections, I beg to differ. In my forty years of active Nationalism, I have experienced a number of ups and downs in our electoral fortunes. I have learnt that it is vital during one of the down-turns for a few (it does not need more than a few brave souls) to defiantly fly the flag and to keep faith with those who stick by us through thick and thin.
But one can say more: When I first joined active Nationalism some forty years ago, people used to say to us, “No, mate, it’s not as bad as you say”. People used to tell us that the Tories had a plan to send all the immigrants back home. People used to tell us that the Labour party was on the side of the working-class. Nobody believes any of that now. Everybody can see that the Tories lie at every election ; everybody can see that the Labour party hates the British people.
What is required are men and woman prepared to stand up in the public space (elections and elsewhere) and state what everybody can see to be true: that the political Establishment at Westminster is committing genocide against our people: a dreadful but true charge, and this is what makes these times so different from the earlier days: We Cassandra’s have been proven right, even the slowest can see that now.
So where are we ?: We’ve had the NF of the 1970s where with notable exceptions the people were too complacent; we’ve seen the BNP with its brave one hundred councillors come and go; Question, Is not our time now come ? Does a truly great people like the British allow itself to be removed from the face of the earth by such political trash as is presently ensconced at Westminster ?
Finally, let me say that regarding the financial outlay, our NF campaign in these London elections did not cost any more that one hundred fifty pounds; plus the boot leather, time and effort of our wonderful activists, but that was freely given as a token of our love for Britain. And finally, Max, permit me to use the space of your web-site to thank the one thousand voters who went to the polls in my home town to cast a vote for yours truely, their National Front candidate.
Stefan
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Your financial efficiency compared to how the BNP were in the past is remarkable, well worth the money by the sound of it!
Even if there was no victory, at least somebody new might have heard the message.
Concerned Briton
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Richard, I think all of us familiar with nationalism will know of you as a stalwart of this cause. Personally speaking, I have never heard anything but praise for you and your history in the nationalist cause over such a long length of time. That is perhaps why it is such a tragedy to see the state of this country and the rather small effect which nationalist party politics has had over those forty years of active service and dedication.
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It has been forty years and, through no fault of your own, there is sadly nothing much to show for it, from what I can see. The country has continued to be swamped, the liberal dogmas have set in to the wider population like gangrene. At least three cities are lost causes due to demographics, and as you are indeed aware, we potentially have as little as 25 years left as a majority group in England, and will likely be a minority in the entirety of Britain by the end of the century.
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The speed and ease at which the British National Party was snuffed out, even when it had no real grip upon the wider electorate or any MPs, should surely be sounding alarm bells that a reliance upon electioneering and doing the same thing that has been done for 40 years is not necessarily the solution.
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What are the realistic chances of the National Front, or any properly nationalistic party sweeping this country by storm? Outside of some major upheaval which drives people into the arms of such a party – how long would it take to “build up” councillors, county councillors, regional councillors, MPs, to reach a position where it was a real threat to the established order and a real threat of actually reversing the demographic trends in this country?
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Voters are fickle. They do not always stick around. Demographics can change in areas, often on purpose by those who rule over us, to ensure we cannot form a strong hold or sustain a success. After all, Barking and Dagenham became 31% less white in a single decade. Things were heading that way anyway, but surely the then Labour party knew exactly what they were doing by cramming the place with non-whites – and any current or future government could do the same.
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Only, in a short while, they may not even have to. The age ranges of the interlopers are already sowing the seeds for the future, and like a patchwork quilt, they are at risk of smothering the country in slow motion, to the point where no seats could be won anywhere. If this is even remotely the case, will it not be time to put electioneering and party platforms aside? Is the time not “now” to think ahead and try to organise alternatives, so they have time to be built?
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Earlier in the comments I gave the example of my local ward and the BNP candidates who stand for election. Of course I support them and wish to show that support by carving votes away from the established order, they are decent men who are concerned about their country. But as I explained, in real practical terms, in this town that is now over 40% Pakistani/Bangladeshi and others, where do they expect to head from there?
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What, quite honestly, is the point of this? The abuse, the worn leather, the dashed hopes, the money, whilst more and more houses fly up for sale and more white people move out? They can’t win control of the council, they can’t even ensure the ingredients will be there to keep their councillor….no matter whether he can get the road resurfaced or fix the broken street light.
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For issuing a message, handing out our propaganda, meeting like minded folk, gauging a reaction to the party message……party politics is great. It is all useful. It allows us to spread wider policies, paint a vision of what things ought to be like, and so on.
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In terms of physically and mentally securing a future for the indigenous population and creating something that has longevity……sorry, I am just not convinced. This is why Western Spring is here. I don’t think it needs to be strictly one thing or the other, but over the last 40 years too many people have been blinded and blinkered into playing the game of politics and playing by the expected rules of systems which our enemies make for us.
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The amount of people who must have churned through the nationalist movement in 40 years has to be staggering. Where are all the BNP voters who propelled Nick Griffin into the EU parliament? Where are all the former activists, regional organisers, meeting attendees, party members from the 70s, 80s, 90’s…?
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The churn in the BNP membership was staggering. The party now has an almost entire new clientèle than they did in 2002. Many of the people who saw it gain success are gone, and not coming back to any form of nationalism. Is this endless picking up and dropping out helping? It is, I think, the nature of party politics.
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I think it is important for there to be something waiting there to undertake politics, to carry out the kinds of activities of propaganda, explanation and a “weather vane” of how the wind may be blowing…..but in terms of organising something to solidify a future for those dedicated few who are prepared to take such a stand, I don’t think Western Spring and their proposed concepts can be beaten. In fact, I think it ideally should have been taken up some 30 or 40 years ago.
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Germany’s AfD party has seen a rapid rise. It was only established about 4 years ago. That may well happen here, in the right circumstances. At the moment, the British are the odd ones out. We need to understand why this is, what our weaknesses are, and how to perhaps organise things differently. I wish the NF luck, I hope that a party can rise to prominence….. but at the same time, I do see it as a flawed and pretty futile endeavour. I hope I will be proven wrong.
Richard Edmonds
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“It is a tragedy to see the state of this country and the rather small effect which nationalist party politics has had over those forty years of active service and dedication.”
You ask me to respond You talk of forty years of nationalist service and dedication. With all respect, I think that your focus is too narrow. For at least a hundred years the White European race, including therein the British people, have been subjected to a planned and calculated genocide. In all seriousness and with hindsight, how else can one describe the launching, by the British Establishment of the two World Wars ? Millions of men, Europe’s finest and Britain’s finest were killed in the First World War, and then just twenty years later the British Establishment launched the Second World War which was even more destructive than First: it is estimate that some sixty millions lost their lives; and now for the last forty or rather more, years we, the European peoples including most certainly the British, have been subjected by our own governments to genocidal levels of mass-immigration from the rest of the world
The dire fact is, we are being destroyed by our own governments. Against such wickedness, we simple men and women, who are not multi-millionaires, do not own newspapers or TV companies, and who possess no armoured tank divisions (as Josef Stalin once recommended), we humdrum mortals must take our energy and courage: and go into the public arena (elections and elsewhere) and expose and oppose the evil that is being done to us. Believe me, I am not being frivolous when I quote St. John, chapter eight, verse thirty two: “Speak the Truth, and the Truth will set you free.”
Now , Sir, You didn’t believe there was a quick and easy answer to all this, did you ? But I’m sure that you agree with me, that our wonderful Britain is worth fighting for.
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Concerned Briton
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Thanks for your response Richard.
Naturally I would agree to the tragedy of what has happened in history – and the calculated measures that have been employed by a certain tribe in (what is believed by many of us to be) a measure to bring to heel their opponents (and destroy their opponents), in order to protect themselves in the short term and sit themselves at the top of the tree for the long term.
However, I fail to see how your reply deals with anything I have put forward about the mechanics of party politics – and the tragedy that this route, for over 40 years, has not born any successful and lasting fruit which has made any kind of serious dent in the process which is befalling us all.
As you state yourself, we are up against a machine. We are up against a globalist machinery with endless funds, control, supplies and worker bees in media, politics, finance, virtually all spheres of life. Their ideology and presence is dominant and the default.
Why would anybody who knows all this to be true, then choose to stand with the equivalent of a pea shooter in a battle ground designed and run by this enemy, who has tanks and armaments at their disposal and a gullible flow of henchmen who are such victims of the poisonous ideology pumped into them by the machine that they don’t even comprehend the gravity and magnitude of what is at stake?
As I suggested previously, in terms of propagating information there is nothing wrong with a political party. It can serve such a purpose well and, further, gauge a level of support for nationalist ideals. In terms of a method to salvage something from this wreckage though, I think it is pretty useless. Western Spring, Win White (and so on) are much more superior in their strategy.
Being proven right is not enough. Telling reluctant listeners the distasteful truth is only part of it. I think we are already past the point of no return, when considers the nature of wider society, the machine against us, the demographics which are already here.
Sure, something could happen out of the blue, but I think we had better have a ‘plan B’ than pinning our hopes on this spontaneous event or having a mass surge of nationalist party politics that not only propels us into influence but allows us to reverse some of the trends.
Indeed, as you state, the common folk do not own the media, they are not millionaires. The only power we DO still have at our collective disposal is our own physical and numerical advantage, an asset which is dwindling by the year.
Voting bases cannot be secured without ideological dedication – and a strategy for what happens next. It often seems to be like a dog chasing a car…..it catches up with the car, then looks around and doesn’t know what to do next.
Given that time is so tight, would it not be wisest to cut some of our losses, stop trying to explain ourselves to those who oppose us, stop trying to win un-winnable seats, and instead start concentrating on consolidating those who are already “part the way there”?
Is it not wise to start organising these numbers strategically now, bolstering their dedications to a cause geographically (not just a party platform), pushing the pressure outwards from such strong holds (that cannot be broken easily, like Barking and Dagenham was)……rather than us being squeezed persistently from the outside in all of our patchworks of localities – until people give up, give in, emigrate, etc?
If party politics was a viable strategy 40 years should be sufficient enough time to make some headway. The British are sadly not the same people they were 40 years ago. The longer the rot goes on, the more they will be married with these people, friends with these people, have them as relatives, or work colleagues…..eschewing our messages even further than how the era of Enoch Powell has fallen to today’s general apathy and indifference.
We may have as little as 25 years left as a majority in England. Even if we call it 30 years or 35 years, to establish even a secure space for our collective selves would have to start being built up now. It is a long process, if it is even possible at all, and if we can imbibe our values to future generations in this setting.
It is a tall order, but no taller than expecting to gain power and sway through politics in a process designed to exclude us. As can be seen all over Europe (and indeed within the same party in America, with Donald Trump), when an outside challenge comes to the political establishment, they close ranks, collude with their so-called opponents to keep us out…..
Western Spring does not hinder electoral routes, that can all still be done if people choose. It is an alternative to the electioneering model, and one which is designed with the realities of the opposition power and influence factored in. It may indeed seem fantastical and far fetched, but I think electioneering as a vehicle to salvage this country is equally fantastical.
Richard Edmonds
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“Why would anybody who knows all this to be true, then choose to stand with the equivalent of a pea shooter in a battle ground designed and run by this enemy, who has tanks and armaments at their disposal”
All the tanks and armaments including nuclear weapons possessed by the Soviet Union, did not save the ruling regime when the time came and the Russian people had had enough of their lies, and the oppression and the ghastly conditions of life which they, the vast majority, were expected to endure. We, who are middle-aged, witnessed the collapse of the mighty Soviet Union, and quick it was too. But what preceded the collapse, was the decades-long gruelling experiences and sufferings – of brave men and women, such as the dissident Alexander Solzhenitsyn who publically denounced and defied the System, and whose inspiration was:
“Speak the Truth, and the Truth will set you free.” ,
Concerned Briton
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Again, there is sadly no acknowledgement or any real countering of the points being raised about the mechanics of the electoral process (and the obvious lack of results to date).
Nobody is doubting the conditions which can cause revolutions and the collapse of regimes, or even the rise of great figures, but are we seriously pinning our hopes on this kind of “worse is better” scenario I keep hearing in nationalism – something which is supposed to drive people into our arms to the point where we not only take charge but cast millions of people out of this land?
Is this really the plan, to pursue with largely dead end political routes, coming in at around 7% of the vote, handing out leaflets, etc, for another decade or more until the people may somehow rise from their slumber at a national level one day and “see the truth”, “see that we were right all along”…and then gain some fraction of MPs, or even miraculously sweep the whole system away?
And at what point will that come? When we are 60% nationally (and not even in agreement with each other about it as ‘a people’), 50%, 30%? As chunk after chunk of our land is compromised like a patchwork quilt?
In terms of ‘worse is better’ for demographics, which I have heard some people suggest before now – that has hardly helped us in London, Luton, Leicester, Birmingham, Manchester, Blackburn, Rochdale….
Shouldn’t nationalist parties be romping home in these parts of the country? The English are being replaced, beaten, raped, blown up, beheaded, sexually groomed, placed at the back of housing queues, seeing their services deteriorate, mosques flying up, lower wages, we are allegedly in a deep recession, guilt tripped for our history and our dominance in our own civilisation….and yet, nothing. Nothing happens.
Are they asleep, or in a self induced coma? Or is it that we need a precise combination of such crippling and dire events, such as starvation, mass bombings and shelling, government firing squads etc, to make ordinary people rise up?….Is that what’s being advocated? And how likely is this scenario to occur, particularly in time to save our bacon?
What if the major financial collapse never comes in a bang, or conditions of control are continued to be soft-peddled and gradually accepted, nay even demanded, by the wider public? It is not as obvious or as brutal as the Soviet Union, even though it is as pernicious. Maybe they have learnt their lesson on how to do this with less risk of being overthrown.
There is no problem with speaking the truth, but how to make use of those who care to listen is the issue in debate here, not wars, not the soviet union.
The truth can be spoken and the subsequent ideals adhered to regardless of political parties and their particular mechanics.
The ‘struggle’ you describe can still be waged, but it is the form of that struggle which is being contested in this article and the replies.
I am not a religious person, but I will issue a quote from the Bible myself. I believe it is Matthew 13:13. “This is why I speak to them in parables: “Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear”
And it is on that note that I think I will cease wasting my time on here, as it looks like we will forever be talking cross purposes.
Good luck with your endeavours and to the National Front, and thanks again for your long dedication and commitment to the cause.
Richard Edmonds
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Dear Concerned Briton,
my final comment here is: Don’t be “sad”: sadness is always a weak response; be mad, be justifiable angry, but don’t be “sad”: it is not worthy of justifiably angry Britons.
Sincerely, Richard Edmonds.
AAA
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In a recent interview Nick Griffin declares that Western Europe is “past the voting stage” and discusses extra-parliamentary options: https://www.lbc.co.uk/ex-bnp-leader-im-emigrating-to-eastern-europe-122816
Concerned Briton
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Whilst I do not feel to be in a position where I can tell other people what to do, because I am not particularly active in this issue at the moment, it should be obvious to all that electioneering of the type still practised by micro nationalist parties is a complete waste of time and effort.
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Western Spring and the small handful of other community building ventures are the most useful and most sensible ventures at this time.
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Standing a nationalist party for London mayor has to be one of the most retarded things I have seen in a long while, particularly since the BNP went into cardiac arrest several years ago.
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How on Earth do they manage to justify this to their party members? Are they so blind to the reality of the situation that they refuse to see? Are they that deluded that they think they could have won, if only they had the ‘right circumstances’ and no ‘smears’ from their opposition? Do they still believe they are the ‘silent voice of the majority’?
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Mind you, many of us were once carried away on the crest of a “democratic” wave. This was the way we thought the world worked – you want to change things, you get behind a party, canvass, fund, stand or vote. The British National Party was indeed once rising up the ranks, it was an exciting time. But they were, at the end of the day, a minuscule force in this country – and were swiftly beheaded by a combination of their own incompetence and the demographic gerrymandering of Barking and Dagenham between 2001 and 2011, where the white percentage dropped over 30%.
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I don’t believe that voting makes any lasting difference. Without the foundation being there for longevity, including a steadfast belief and commitment, without a space that cannot be poisoned or infiltrated or gerrymandered, it is nothing other than a signalling or a statement to others that people in an area are still hostile to the enrichment that laps around the edges of the places where the BNP and others tend to seek to stand for election.
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It is for this reason more than many others why I went to vote for the local BNP candidate for my constituency ward. I have nothing to do with the party any more and haven’t for years, but given the option of letting Labour get in, or just staying at home, I decided to head down there and cast them my vote.
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It was just for sheer stubbornness and a sense of sticking two fingers up to the liberals in the other parties. This is perhaps what many do – only I am not kidding myself that it will help save the country, which still seems to be the attitude of their wider membership.
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I believe they achieved over 400 votes, about 45 votes short of winning the seat from the Conservative….which wasn’t too bad, considering a lack of obvious canvassing. A BNP representative was in the voting hall, which was extremely quiet in terms of foot fall. He was explaining how the BNP is different now, that it has moved on from the troubles, and he encouraged a closer contact in the future. Sorry, not interested. Been there, done that, got the depression and the mental burn-out to prove it.
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Yet this is where it gets absurd, doesn’t it?……What do these ‘well meaning’ people and the wider party base really expect to happen?
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The town being contested is already 40% Pakistani and others on the whole. Do they expect to win the seat, win more seats here in wards that are no longer English, come to take control of the town council, then get influence on the regional seats, maybe get an MP 15 years from now…which, if such a miracle was to happen, would be one out of 650 MPs in the houses of parliament….then what?.
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It really is bonkers when you sit and think about it…..but it still goes on! Even standing for mayor of London, our capital city which is only about 40% white and where most of them are going to be lost causes, in mixed marriages, lefties, BBC employees, or internationalists. What were they trying to achieve?! Did they think they’d romp to victory and push Khan, Goldsmith and Johnson aside?!
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Whilst a “party” may need to be in the wings, waiting for that “perfect storm” that they think will catapult them to victory (or at least be as notorious as the VfD in Germany or Front National in France), we are not in that position and throwing away over £350,000 on this fantasy is contemptible.
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They could have built or funded themselves a small school, funded home schooling programs for a collective, bought houses for those dedicated enough to relocate. People would be better off applying for jobs in the border agencies or deportation agencies than going through this farce. At least that way they may have a chance at actually preventing an entry or two – or securing a rare deportation! Of course, I am joking – but you get the point.
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Trevor Phillips has just published a new document about race in Britain. He is worried about what may be ahead. Yet, reading the facts and figures of the trends he cites in the report, it is the indigenous who should be worried. We are already on borrowed time, if one still has the muster to care, which I assume nationalist party members do.
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Yet, the time to fanny around with micro parties is long over. Turn them into the social clubs that they really are, have fund raisers instead of standing for mayors or in seats you’d never win, then use the time and money wisely to try and build something that has a remote chance of lasting.
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The Muslims in my town are community builders and entryists. They are in all the parties. They are crowd funding their mosques, madrasas, setting up ‘maths clubs’ to improve the chances of their young. Lessons could be learnt from those who many in Britain First and other entities would perhaps tend to mock as being “backwards”.
Stefan
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Yes that’s why my money is coming here!
Edward
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I suspect people gave money to the various Nationalist parties to actually fight elections. Would the money have been available for other things if no elections had been fought, I very much doubt it.
Max Musson
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That’s where you are wrong Edward. Our people will give and give generously once they see their money will be applied towards a constructive end. Many people donate regularly to Western Spring but we don’t contest elections. We apply the money donated towards the acquisition of the Six Prerequisites and while in these early stages most of the money is being accumulated and there is little tangible to show for it, our time will come and that money will have a great impact when the time is right.
Edward
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Unfortunately Max, like it or not MOST people will only donate money for tangible things i.e. Leaflets, stickers, and fighting elections. People are very reluctant to give money when they can not see an end result of some kind.
Concerned Briton
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But the question from Western Spring advocates will surely be: Are those things actually tangible as assets in real terms for the longer future, and is there ever going to be an ‘end result’ when using the electoral route? After 40 years of using this tactic, shouldn’t one expect to see more progress than that what currently surrounds us?
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If the ‘end result’ is defined as electing a councillor, or an MP, something tangible in people’s viewpoint – isn’t that a little bit short sighted of them, considering the winds of politics could quite easily blow out such a struggle to get them there, and then having to go through the whole rigmarole again and again? And what use would one, or even two MPs do for us in a den of over 600 others, who, at the moment, take some of their ultimate orders from the EU?
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You’re right that most people will not donate money into a black hole or bottomless pit where there is no evidence provided at all of any progress, any sense of scale of those accrued monies, or where the accrued monies may have been spent. That is the way of the world, and few people are going to buck that trend.
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Aside from the struggle to find hardcore/dedicated pioneers that will change their lives to undertake this programme, the clandestine nature of it will tend to be a stumbling block for those voters and political party supporters who are used to seeing evidence of where their contributions are being spent.
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I am not sure how much it truly cost the BNP to run for London Mayor, for example, but I suppose that the supporters of the party could actually see the leaflets, see the candidate, see the efforts that were being made….albeit it that the whole exercise is likely to be entirely futile in the long run. It is a difficult barrier to overcome.