A Potential ‘WIN : WIN’

By Max Musson:

Many of our readers will not have had the opportunity to attend last Saturday’s London Forum meeting and will be disappointed to have missed the first public speech by Nick Grifford of White Independent Nation (WIN).

Nick has written for Western Spring in the past and has his own political blog in addition to the WIN website and we have featured some of his podcasts in past articles, and it must be apparent to all that there is a considerable overlap between the strategies pursued by WIN and the strategies pursued by Western Spring.

We are pleased that WIN, Western Spring and a number of other nationalist organisations are at long last beginning to gravitate in the same direction and while there are no plans for a merger, we are aware of the potential for synergy that could be created if we maintain the current momentum and increasingly collaborate on projects of mutual interest in the future.

By Max Musson © 2015

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15 thoughts on “A Potential ‘WIN : WIN’

  1. I think it makes sense to not have all one’s eggs in one basket or all back the same horse in the same race.

  2. Richard James

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    In order for us to create the future that we want, I believe there are three qualities that we must cultivate.
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    Everything that has been created that is worthwhile has first existed as an idea. An idea is envisioned before a man can create according to the problem which he seeks to solve. Necessity being the mother of invention.
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    Once this vision is beheld in the mind, for it to move beyond just an idle daydream, there must be the will to bring the idea into the real world. Without this necessary will the vision will fade, diminish over time and eventually the person having the vision will age, grow old and lack the third requirement to fullfill the creation, which is power. The power to act through our willingness to envision our future.
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    Just as a fire requires heat, air and fuel to live, so too we require these three base qualities in order create the future we desire: vision, will and power.
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    Attaing the Six Prerequisites is also dependent upon these three personal qualities. Often people possess and exhibit these qualities unconsciously. However if we focus upon them, we strengthen them.
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    Nick Grifford has these qualities, they were present in him as he spoke. There are others too who possess these qualities in what we at present, loosely term ‘the movement’. Sometimes we refer to these qualities by other names, passion for example: ‘He/she was a passionate speaker’, someone may say, which is really another term for ‘power’. Or someone may say that such-and-such a person has some very good ideas, another term for ‘vision’. Again, someone may say of another, that he is very keen or has alot of ‘get up and go’, or Will.
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    We cannot look outside ourselves for a solution to our situation. As Nick said, we are that solution. We need to become the solution to our own problems. Nobody is coming to help us. No ‘God’, no ‘White Knight’, no ‘Führer’. Only ourselves!

      1. Richard James

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        Thankyou Max . A fine compliment from another powerfull visionary with the will to achieve .

  3. First of all let me say that Nick Grifford is a good blogger and has probably a lot more Gray matter than myself, but I tend to get sick of all the defeatist and negative attitudes that I see on the web and media. The dumbing down of this nation since the war years without anyone trying to counteract it is beyond belief,the PC brigade are still walking all over us and making us look stupid. There has got to be an easier and simpler way past this, I myself am speaking as an Englishman, over 80% of the population are English so I don’t have much interest in British values now.
    There may be thousands of websites saying similar things about the state of their countries-so many that hardly anyone seems to hear what is being said, so much gets drowned out by all the chatter.
    Many of our young and some not so old hardly read at all, many don’t bother with the internet as it is alien to them.
    The only way to get through to some is by pretty pictures,yes comic book style but not the Wow,Zap, Kapow type, neat orderly adult style pictures. During WW2 we used to get quite a bit of comic strip information, we were a lot more naïve then but it worked.
    My solution is an eight page newspaper,six pages to get a message across and two centre pages of comic strips for the lazy readers,the images could be photographs of real people converted to comic format by filters. Comic book makers use this a lot these days, the only thing is their comics are quite expensive unlike the Dandy and Beano.
    I know of one firm that can print 10,000 papers for under £500 which works out at about 5 pence a paper, that’s without shipping there may be cheaper rates but that would have to be explored.
    And of course the paper would have to be a giveaway if you want to capture your audience, you might even have to target where it might best be received.
    You would only need a 125 dedicated members to donate £1 a week to produce a monthly newspaper

    1. DAN,
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      In essence you seem to be proposing the undertaking of agitrop to help facilitate the Movement. This is an area I’m very much interested in, but I’m frustrated in my endeavours: while I might have some good ideas I have only a rudimentary understanding and ability to put them into practice. For instance, my area is the written word. I cannot draw, have no experience in graphic design, and have only basic experience with computers, logistics, and organisation needed to put ideas into practice.
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      I’m looking to gather a team of like-minded folk to share ideas and offer their services on projects such as you have mentioned and others I have on the the back-burner.
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      If you are interested in communicating with me regarding these points then please contact Max at [email protected] and he will duly put us in touch (please persevere if Max should miss your email in his often-swamped inbox).
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      This outreach also applies to any other folk reading this who are interested in such projects. There are satirists, writers, artists, graphic designers, computer programmers, printers… out there so, please,
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      STEP IT UP, WHITE MAN, and let’s start moving this Movement.

  4. First of all let me say that Nick Grifford is a good blogger and has probably a lot more Gray matter than myself, but I tend to get sick of all the defeatist and negative attitudes that I see on the web and media. The dumbing down of this nation since the war years without anyone trying to counteract it is beyond belief,the PC brigade are still walking all over us and making us look stupid. There has got to be a easier and simpler way past this, I myself am speaking as an Englishman, over 80% of the population are English so I don’t have much interest in British values now.
    There may be thousands of websites saying similar things about the state of their countries-so many that hardly anyone seems to hear what is being said, so much gets drowned out by all the chatter.
    Many of our young and some not so old hardly read at all, many don’t bother with the internet as it is alien to them.
    The only way to get through to some is by pretty pictures,yes comic book style but not the Wow,Zap, Kapow type, neat orderly adult style pictures. During WW2 we used to get quite a bit of comic strip information, we were a lot more naïve then but it worked.
    My solution is a eight page newspaper,six pages to get a message across and two centre pages of comic strips for the lazy readers,the images could be photographs of real people converted to comic format by filters. Comic book makers use this a lot these days, the only thing is their comics are quite expensive unlike the Dandy and Beano.
    I know of one firm that can print 10,000 papers for under £500 which works out at about 5 pence a paper, that’s without shipping there may be cheaper rates but that would have to be explored.
    And of course the paper would have to be a giveaway if you want to capture your audience, you might even have to target where it might best be received.
    You would only need a 125dedicated members to donate £1 a week to produce a monthly newspaper
    Getting back to Nick Grifford and his small rebellions I used to be a health inspector on the river Tyne boarding foreign ships and I can tell you that their hygiene is non existing that is with Asians I mean.

  5. Edith Crowther

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    I was late and missed the talk at the London Forum. But I had a feeling it would be good.

    Listening to it now, it is more than good – it is like the mists clearing on one of those lovely English summer days.

    For decades we have battling with the enemies of our ethnic group, and we have got bogged down in conflict mode, responding to their every move like Pavlov’s dogs. We need someone to yank us out of this Reactive murk and chuck us out into an Active light of day.

    I did get to the Forum in time to hear the speech by the Swiss Generation Identitaire activist, Jean David Cattin – he too is young and he too has lost patience with the continual engagement with bogeymen. Yes the bogeymen are real – but they need us to engage, to play their game. The only way to defeat them is a total boycott – and total independence.

  6. That was a spirited and heart felt speech by Nick Grifford.
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    We certainly need such energy.
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    Yet this PLE (Pioneer Little Europe) idea, that is also promoted here by Western Spring, is on balance an inefficient use of our resources. Setting up White enclaves has an “opportunity cost” in that what you spend on that can’t be spent on other things. Like spending one million on buying up several houses in a tiny town to ensure its more White, while the rest of the country goes to shyte.
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    One reason why it’s an inefficient use of our resources is because our enemy, organized jewery (OJ) has, from a observational point of view, no intention of literally wiping out, genociding, Whites into oblivion. Their intention is to genocide us into a state of powerlessness, that is, being unable to overcome jewish tyranny.
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    And one good reason for that genocide to go only so far, besides wanting a technically proficient elite White workforce, is to have a sexually attractive elite White “workforce” of White females that OJ is very lustful of.
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    In other words, what Nick and Western Spring is suggesting will be met with full approval by our OJ enemies.
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    Yes, please set up enclaves of Whites, we will need them! There will be no opposition to this!
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    The White race will certainly not go extinct under OJ tyranny, but it will be reduced to an inmate in an OJ zoo.
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    What we really need to do is pour all our resources into awakening Whites and mankind in general to the coming, if we do nothing, worldwide OJ tyranny. Then the real fight can begin.
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    Thank you Nick!

    1. It is interesting Katana, that in contriving a premise with which to criticise the strategy of White community building, you have contradicted your assertions in comments you posted in response to H. Millard’s article ‘The Struggle We Are In To Overcome Our Oppression’.
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      In those comments, you state that the objective of organised Jewry is the destruction of the White race, yet here in your above comments, you state that their objective is simply to engineer our economic, political and cultural impotence, and that they will need us to survive in some subordinate form in order to serve their interests.
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      If our objectives were simply to create consciously White communities and nothing else, your arguments stated here might have some credence, however anyone who has studied our strategies in full will realise that is not the case.
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      As for your suggestion, that we throw all of our resources into awakening our fellow Whites, while neglecting all other avenues, I would point out that nationalists have been doing this for over 120 years and to no avail, and one of the primary reasons for this is the obsession that many nationalists spokespeople have for confining their propaganda to lengthy diatribes in which Jews are blamed for everything and are portrayed as all-powerful, to such an extent that such propaganda becomes counter-productive.
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      If we constantly tell our fellow Whites that ‘Jews are everywhere’, they ‘are a monolithic entity’, they ‘control everything’, they ‘always get their way’, they ‘are all-powerful’ and ‘determined to utterly destroy every last vestige of the White race’, many of our people deduce that there is little or no point trying to fight them and they give up trying.
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      The degree to which such propaganda becomes counter-productive can be gleaned from the fact that our website here at Western Spring has an Alexa ranking indicating that we are the 349,954th most popular website on the planet, whereas your own is only the 5,463,999th most popular.
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      Our people are looking for leadership that offers them a positive way forward, which inspires them with the belief that we can win and which fills them with hope for the future.
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      The truth of our situation however is that White community building together with propaganda outreach aimed at awakening our fellow Whites must both be practiced as tactics within a broad range of strategies designed to secure our genetic survival and regain our self-determination. We must ‘fight on all fronts’ and have ‘many strings to our bow’ if we are to succeed. We must also refrain wherever possible from needless propaganda attacks upon our fellow Whites and the productive work in which we are involved.
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      Western Spring are happy to promote other groups, individuals and websites that have as their aim the survival, proliferation and advancement of the White race, but not if those groups, individuals and websites are intent of undermining our aims.

    2. AryanConservationist

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      Hello Katana,
      A racially aware White community gives us the opportunity to secure the 14 Words. Whatever the “opportunity cost”, it is nothing compared to our continued existence.
      The powers that be want to turn everybody (except themselves) into a brown, androgynous nation of zombies.
      If (in your words) we are reduced to an inmate in an OJ zoo, whilst the rest of the country (world) turns to shyte. All I can say is where there’s life, there’s hope, and I would never underestimate the creative genius of the White race, especially when its backed into a corner. I don’t care if I go to hell, as long as my mates are there as well.

  7. I can assure you Max that there’s no “contriving a premise” on my part.
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    You are labeling my criticism of your enclave plan as “needless propaganda attacks upon fellow Whites”. I spend my time and effort offering a sincere, yet critical, opinion here because I take your efforts in the same vein. Constructive criticism is a necessary corrective and that is the intent of my comments.
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    BTW Max, since I do have such a pitiful Alexa ranking can you at least allow my website plug at the end here to be shown? I’m still a long way from overtaking you.
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    [NB. These comments have been edited to avoid repetition.]

    1. Hi Katana,
      Constructive criticism is criticism that is couched in sympathetic terms and which helps the subject of that criticism to achieve their objectives more efficiently. Your criticism however, both on this and previous occasions has been antagonistic towards our objectives and couched in disparaging terms.
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      Your criticisms in a nutshell can be summarised as complaining that we don’t focus enough time and attention on attacking ‘the Jews’ and that we spend our time doing unnecessary, ineffective and extraneous things while “the rest of the country goes to shyte”, when we could of course, be attacking ‘the Jews’!
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      This is an argument that I have already soundly rebutted and if you would like Western Spring to continue plugging your blog, you will need to learn to express yourself in more constructive ways, or at least learn to ‘bite your tongue’ instead of ‘the hand that feeds you’.
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      Now, let me finish with a tip:
      If you want cordial relations with Western Spring and for us to give your blog a plug, your next comment posted here should at the very least be sympathetic to and broadly supportive of our aims and objectives. There is no need for flattery, simply avoid rudeness, strident denunciations and disparaging suggestions that we are ‘doing the work of the Jews’.

  8. Belated thought on how to advance the ‘white enclaves’ idea. (I’m slow).
    Presumably it could be accomplished also by existing crowdfunding means via established websites like

    https://www.thehousecrowd.com/
    https://propertymoose.co.uk/
    https://propertypartner.co/

    or others…

    Lot of cheap properties in northern areas listed. Suppose you’d have to take care the portfolio offered for funding isn’t the unsaleable dregs of the surveyors’ book, but all else being equal, what would preclude an informal ‘concert party’ each together bidding the max on selected properties? You get shares in a company that is registered owner of the property in question owing to the maximum limits of 4 on co-ownership of the actual title to the land, but the methodology is there ready to be used.

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