Remember, Remember, the Fifth of November, Gunpowder Treason and Plot

Following the showing of the first part, just over a week ago, of the new BBC drama serial ‘Gunpowder’, BBC executives have been criticised for what many have regarded as the unnecessarily gruesome and gory presentation of the Guy Fawkes November 5th plot to blow up parliament. While the programme allegedly features the most violent and viscerally gory scenes of torture and execution ever screened on primetime television, and disturbing though these scenes have been, the aspect of this drama that has hit home hardest for me is the close parallel between the Jacobean persecution of Catholic dissidents during the early 1600s and treatment of dissident patriots in modern day Britain.

No nationalist activist who has attracted the malevolent interest of the political police here in modern in Britain could fail to recognise the direct parallel with the opening scenes of episode one of BBC’s ‘Gunpowder’, in which men with nothing but blackness in their hearts searched determinedly for any pretext upon which to unleash their bigoted hatred and retribution upon the poor Catholics whose simple wish was to be left alone to live their lives and worship their God in their chosen way.

Just as in Jacobean England, there is a division within the United Kingdom today between the peoples of two faiths, however the modern schism is not simply one of divided loyalties between one Christian Pontiff in Rome and another representing the Christian Church of England, neither of which had malevolent intent where the survival of our nation is concerned. Today the division that exists is of much greater significance, because the outcome for the indigenous White people of Britain if mass immigration and the current repression of our people continues, will be genocidal in its impact.

Each year for as long as most young people can remember, we have experienced as many as six-hundred thousand immigrants entering Britain each year. That figure is greater than the total number of children of all ethnicities born in the UK each year and it is causing a massive transformation of our society throughout the country. Indeed immigration at this rate will cause the indigenous White British to become a minority in the UK by 2053.

In 2053 the population of Britain will be over 90 million based on current demographic trends, and during the intervening years the indigenous White British population will fall in number to just less than 46 million people, a disproportionately large number of which will be elderly, while the non-White population will rise to just over 46 million people, disproportionately made up of young people of child bearing age.

In 2053 only one-third of the babies born in Britain will be White – just 336,000, out of a total of more than a million, and in the years that follow, the proportion of the population composed of the descendants of we indigenous Whites will become smaller and smaller.

If nothing changes and current demographic trends continue, we will have consigned our descendants to a future in which they will be vulnerable and at the mercy of the non-White majority — a non-White majority raised and educated, rightly or wrongly, to believe that we Whites have for centuries, conquered them, enslaved them, abused and exploited them, and in some cases committed genocide against them, and while many among us may hope that the future non-White majority will be merciful and humane in their treatment of our descendants, we have no reason to believe or expect that they will be. In fact, the attitude and the pronouncements of non-White ethnic advocates today suggests that there is much pent up resentment and ill-feeling towards White people and there is every indication that our descendants will be expected to make amends and suffer retribution for the perceived wrong doings of their forebears.

Those who have made it their mission to create the nightmare of a non-White majority, multiracial Britain, or who proceed with total indifference towards that end — liberals and Marxists and the vanguard of the nascent non-White political elite — currently hold the levers of power in modern Britain. They form the majority among the small percentage of our population that constitute what passes for the current political elite — and knowing their current numerical weakness — they are as eager as the bigoted Protestant witch-finder generals of the Jacobean era were to vilify and silence anyone who speaks out against their foul machinations. No pretext is too petty and no allegation is too spurious for them to use as justification to criminalise the innocent and to goad the authorities into enacting ever more Draconian measures of oppression and suppression.

In the BBC’s ‘Gunpowder’ serial, we see actor Mark Gatiss playing Lord Robert Cecil, who as Lord Privy Seal had the ear of weak King James I, in much the same way as sinister placemen for the organised minorities and their representative NGOs have the ear of Amber Rudd and Theresa May, constantly fabricating and exaggerating in an attempt to alarm, and in an attempt to elicit further and ever more repressive reactions from those they hold under their spell.

We also see in the BBC’s ‘Gunpowder’ serial, men like Sir William Wade, played by actor Shaun Dooley, who in the hope of promotion are like many of today’s senior police officers and the heads of the security services, prepared to callously and cruelly manipulate, abuse and disregard the law, or at least the spirit of the law, in their efforts to get the results their political masters so earnestly crave.

The difference today is that the punishments meted out to those caught in their nets are not as gory as those of the 1600s as depicted by the BBC. Instead of being hanged, drawn and quartered or ‘pressed’ to death, their victims are subject to disruption orders and control orders that deny basic human rights, they face prison sentences and having their careers and their good names destroyed such that they face a future of unemployability and consequent lifelong, never-ending, poverty. In short, they become pariahs, ‘non-people’ who henceforth have no human rights and face a future of continual harassment by those in authority and by the inquisitorial agents and the spies of the privately directed NGOs such as the woefully inappropriately named, Hope-Not-Hate and the spitefully vindictive and vexatious ‘Campaign Against Antisemitism’.

In the BBC’s ‘Gunpowder’ serial, we see actress Sian Webber playing the part of Lady Dorothy Dibdale and as we watch huge weights being stacked on top of her, pressing her and crushing the life from her body, it is difficult not to think of brave Alison Chabloz and to recognise in Alison the same courage that we saw in Lady Dorothy. Alison has not yet had to face certain death at the hands of public executioners, but she has endured for her faith pressure that would have broken many lessor mortals, and we must all hope that she prevails against the spurious charges arraigned against her at the behest of organised Jewry.

We also see in episode one of ‘Gunpowder’, a young priest who is taken by Sir William Wade’s men and is next seen at the gallows, battered and bruised from torture, where he is publicly hanged, drawn and quartered in front of a baying mob. Again in episode two we see another young priest taken prisoner by Sir William Wade’s men and tortured on the rack, and eventually in episode three the plot to blow up parliament fails and those attempting to free our people from the religious persecution of Jacobean times by force of arms, are executed in the most grotesque of ways.

While circumstances have not descended to that level of barbarity and oppression yet in modern Britain, we already see the enactment of police state legislation containing ‘catch-all’ provisions that can be used to criminalise virtually anyone in order to justify their oppression and their prosecution and their imprisonment for ‘crimes’ so petty it beggars belief.

In the BBC’s ‘Gunpowder’ serial, actor Kit Harington who plays Robert Catesby, one of the eventual 5th November 1605 gunpowder plotters, is seen imploring the Crown authorities to allow Catholics to celebrate their religion in private and to live in peace, and there is a direct parallel in the refusal of Lord Robert Cecil and Sir William Wade to respond reasonably, with the refusal of our current authorities to allow the British people the right to organise peacefully in our own ethnic interests.

Laws have been enacted that make it a crime to exercise preference for our own kind, and it has been made a crime if we do not welcome foreigners into our midst and accord them privileged status at the expense of our own people.

Just as the liturgy and rituals of the Catholic faith were described in Jacobean Britain as a vile and dangerous doctrine in order to justify the persecution of Catholics, so the ideas and principles of racial nationalism are similarly described today, with the current Home Secretary describing the expression of ‘far-right’ views as tantamount to ‘terrorism’ in order to justify the introduction of prison terms of up to 15 years for people who merely view ‘far-right’ propaganda online.

The authorities currently anticipate and are frantically seeking to prove the first signs that the younger and less patient and restrained among us are preparing to resist our repression by force of arms. They understand full well that the relentless suppression of human rights and the oppression of the Catholic congregations of England resulted in the gunpowder plot of 1605, and they fear a similar reaction by the currently cowed, White ethnic majority of modern Britain and more specifically by the more militant elements within the nationalist movement.

It is not that they do not fully appreciate the self-fulfilling nature of their repression – they fear and expect a violent reaction as a result of their oppression and the genocide of our people, and so they ramp up the level of oppression thereby increasing the probability of a violent reaction – they cynically hope that if they can keep a lid on the situation for long enough, our people will eventually be so numerically weakened and the numerical superiority of the immigrants will be such that resistance or rebellion on our part will be futile. The authorities are however taking a massive gamble, and I believe they have miscalculated, omitting to take into consideration one vital factor.

In their justification for the proscription of National Action the Home Office stated, “Its ideology promotes the idea that Britain will inevitably see a violent ‘race war’, which the group claims it will be an active part of”, and this assertion is intended to imply that members of National Action believed in the inevitability of a race war because they planned to instigate one, but this is not necessarily so, and certainly isn’t so for the vast majority of perfectly decent ordinary people who also foresee the inevitability of a race war.

The mere act of foreseeing something terrible and of preparing to meet that terrible eventuality does not mean that one relishes it nor that one wishes to instigate it. Nor would merely willing the opportunity to at last have the final ghastly showdown, facing and finally removing a threat that has hung above us like the Sword of Damocles for so long, be evidence of any intention to instigate conflict unnecessarily, because it is only natural once the prospect of conflict appears inevitable, to wish to get that conflict over and done with as soon as possible.

It is only natural that young men, who have the wit to realise that government are through either wilful ignorance or malevolent intent creating the conditions that mean a future race war will be inevitable, will visualise themselves playing a part in that war in defence of our people. That is not evidence of evil intent, but evidence of a love of one’s people and a willingness to nobly sacrifice one’s life in their defence. It is evidence of the courage and selflessness that we British celebrate each year on Remembrance Sunday.

It is those who promote the oxymoronic goal of a ‘multicultural and multiracial society’, and who promote and facilitate mass non-White immigration into Britain and the West who have made a violent race war inevitable. In every country into which foreigners have imposed their presence, unwanted by the indigenous people, inter-ethnic strife has occurred and at some level violence, ethnic cleansing or race war has resulted. By what misguided logic therefore do the architects of the proposed multicultural Britain believe things will be any different this time?

When a vast number of the immigrants entering Britain recently have come from countries where people just like them cannot live together in peace and are engaged in inter-ethnic violence and bloody civil wars, what makes people like our Home Secretary expect that they will behave differently once they become the majority population in Britain?

Furthermore, when a substantial number of the immigrants and their descendants express no wish to integrate with the indigenous British people and when they practice a faith and an ideology that has brought them into conflict with every other people and every other ethnicity amongst which and alongside which they have ever settled, by what twisted logic does the Home Secretary suppose things are going to be different this time?

The error is in the ideological assertion that all people are equal — that we all want the same things — and that once disparate peoples are allowed to settle in Britain, they will adopt the fundamental British values as defined by the Home Secretary. Obviously, this is pure fantasy!

Under the Prevent Strategy implemented by Theresa May when she was Home Secretary, fundamental British values can be defined as: “belief in democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty and mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs”, however Third World immigrants settling in Britain come primarily from countries where belief in democracy is tenuous, where the law that prevails is all too often Shariah Law, and where the dominant religion, like the Protestantism of Jacobean Britain, advocates the severe punishment of unbelievers and their tolerance only as second class citizens devoid of human rights.

Once people of this ilk grow in number and comprise the majority in our society, one doesn’t have to be a brain surgeon to realise the overwhelming probability that democracy will become more of a sham than it is today, that the rule of law will be progressively undermined and will eventually break down, inter-ethnic and inter-religious strife will proliferate, and eventually the surviving indigenous White minority will become the victims of violent assault by a progressively hostile majority who will not feel inclined or obliged to tolerate our continued existence any longer.

There is no need for imaginary ‘far-right extremists’ to ‘incite violence’ by propagating the idea of a coming race war, one only has to listen to the man in street to discover that a substantial proportion of the politically inactive members of our society already anticipate one.

I can remember many years ago canvassing door-to-door for the BNP in an election campaign, and being disconcerted thinking I must be on Candid Camera, when for the first time I was met by a significant number of individual voters proffering unprompted their belief that they, “can see all this ending in a race war”.

When government deliberately and unnecessarily creates the conditions that will inevitably lead to: inter-ethnic rivalry; leading to inter-ethnic strife; and eventually inter-ethnic violence and the breakdown of law and order, government cannot be surprised when responsible, forward thinking members of society reluctantly take sensible steps to prepare for the inevitable. We would be crazy and guilty of the most reckless dereliction of our duty as citizens, as parents and as patriots if we were to unreservedly sign up to the Home Secretary’s dream of creating a ‘happy-clappy’ society with a fatal concoction of ‘ingredients’ that have only ever previously resulted in blood-bath politics and despotism.

Unless the indigenous British are to be genocided, as hapless minority groups are routinely genocided in virtually every Third World country, we will eventually be engulfed in some kind of race war where we are reluctantly forced to fight for our very survival.

It is the sincere wish of everyone within the nationalist movement that inter-ethnic strife and race war can be averted, but it will only be averted if there is a change of heart and a change of policy on the part of government. The remedy for our current parlous state of affairs does not need to involve hatefulness or nastiness of any kind, it can be accomplished with kindness and consideration, but it requires the realisation on the part of government that we indigenous White British have interests that do not necessarily concur with those of the ethnic minorities, that sometimes run contrary to the interests of the ethnic minorities, and that were there are differences, we have the right to primacy in this our historic homeland.

“Remember, remember, the 5th of November, gunpowder, treason and plot”, are words we are freshly reminded of at this time of year, and particularly this year in view of the BBC’s new serial, and what Amber Rudd and Theresa May need to keenly remember is that while treason continues to be perpetrated against the British people through the encouragement and facilitation of uncontrolled non-White immigration into Britain, this country will increasingly come to resemble a powder-keg, but there will be no need of any ‘far-right’ plot, of the kind perpetrated by Catholic dissidents in 1605 in order to light the fuse, that will be the inevitable consequence of government policy if nothing changes, and it will have been forced upon our movement and our people whether we want it or not and irrespective of whether anyone among us has the foresight to prepare for our defence.

We pray that common sense will eventually prevail!

By Max Musson © 2017

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24 thoughts on “Remember, Remember, the Fifth of November, Gunpowder Treason and Plot

  1. One thing to bear in mind is that the people who are not WN won’t be a cohesive mass, there will be many disparate groups all trying to get their share of an increasingly smaller pie.
    Presumably they will be played off against each other?

  2. A very stirring piece. I’m always bewildered at this notion that we are all the same. If this is the case, then surely all societies would be modelled the same way, and there would be no need for masses to set sail for our home, because their home would have all the mechanisms/institutions ours has in order to make the changes and progress.

    They are all seeking “a better life” which obviously they are entitled to come and take, and we are not entitled to object to. That’s a strange version of equality, and surely puts our Human Rights to protest in danger.

    As my Mother always asked when seeing news of more people arriving, and more race laws being passed – who will take in our children and grandchildren when all these people eventually kick them out? This was in the 1970’s, look how far we’ve come.

  3. We are going back to the so called Dark Ages, After the Romans left in the 5th Centuary their was 500 years of conflict different Tribes Britains, Saxons, Jutes, Frisians, Angles etc, all fighing for land and surpremacy, eventually these peoples who was related by blood assimilated and became English,
    This will never happen with the immigrants that have been allowed to invade our land..assimilation will never happen,
    All i see is a never ending civil war that will only end when one or the other side is annihilated.

    1. The truth is that it is hard for anyone to say what exactly will happen, for the simple reason that we are at a genuinely unprecedented point in history. Anytime an Aryan civilization has ‘collapsed’ in the past, there has always been another tribe or nation of Aryans to move in and fill the vacuum: for example: Greeks (the original Greeks, that is) inherited Egypt, Romans inherited Greece, and Germans inherited much of Rome’s sprawling Empire.

      The best one can hope for (getting one’s head out of the clouds) is for future generations of our race to carve out some portions of our once thoroughly Aryan nations for their own autonomous racially homogenous states. I pray Nordiska Motstandsrorelsen (Nordfront’s) efforts continue their exponential rise, since they are the only example on earth at the moment of intelligent and relatively gallant behaviour on the part of a portion of our race’s menfolk.

      In Britain, perhaps a fragment of our race here will once again feel the notion of self-preservation enough to establish some kind of ethno-state somewhere in Britain, probably in the North somewhere.

      But, one thing is for certain: the cities of Western Europe now belong to the aliens. And in this regard, I think we will in the future see a racially-coloured rural-urban dichotomy. For now, we must admit, of every generation of our race in it’s current state, not one is willing or able to organise on a level that can bring about a sign of hope for the future.

  4. May I recommend for his reconstruction of (among other things) Protestant/Catholic rivalry as a Jewish construct; sparked e.g. by the likelihood that the Medicis were probably Jewish. And infiltrated the French monarchy. It’s unlikely the BBC would ever respect historical truth. And even less likely that actors would.

  5. Incredible irony this should be presented on and by the BBC, an organisation evidently hell-bent on perpetuating anti-white propaganda on a daily basis. I wager they simply thought of the profits a gory ‘Game Of Thrones’ style series (with its most popular actor) would generate for themselves – on top of the TV tax they enforce.

    To be honest, I had no interest in watching this show since the BBC is so hostile towards white British people – particularly men, so I find myself surprised by the findings in this article which has got me wondering if it might be worth watching…

    1. It is worth watching, but won’t be enjoyable if you are a dyed in the wool Protestant still vexed by sectarian rivalry over what took place 400 years ago. The screenplay was written by Northern Irish novelist Ronan Bennett, who is a Left-winger from a Catholic family and apparently was once wrongly jailed for the murder of a policeman during an IRA bank robbery.
      That said, I found the production very believable, firstly because I have no axe to grind one way or the other regarding historic Catholic verses Protestant antagonisms, and secondly, because of the direct parallel with today in terms of the systematic and cynical state oppression of a politically marginalised but greatly feared dissident group with whom a large section of the public have great sympathy.

      1. Thanks for your reply Max. Staying with the BBC theme, I’m wondering if you have time to share your thoughts on the BBC unveiling a statue of George Orwell today outside their main studio?

        As I understand it, Orwell campaigned against the very politics the BBC is pushing towards today – Marxist totalitarianism. Even their report on the statue admitted he utterly opposed state oppression, yet every single day their activism, loosely disguised as ‘news reporting,’ gets more hard-line with their constant demands for apologies for thought crimes while promoting hard-left politics.

        It seems very clear to me that the BBC are hijacking Orwell’s appeal, simply because he was a socialist and worked for them once (yet they binned all his archived work apparently).

  6. Listening to President Trump..he said we must get rid of PC (Cultural Marxism) But it is so intrenched in all walks if life, Education, Media ..Local politics in The West..Its going to be a lifetime struggle to remove them and the damage they have done.

  7. Any part of any big city looks beaten down. The people look beaten down, but when the BNP was around, the people in those districts had a spring in their step. Someone was battling for them!
    Today, everyone looks a bit beaten down. That won’t change until someone starts battling again.

  8. A very interesting article (yet another one of so many I’ve read over the years by nationalists) with a sombre ending.

    ‘We pray that common sense will eventually prevail!’

    We’re reliant upon common sense now – truly tragic. Common sense will not prevail among the politicians as white genocide is the goal and I’m sure we all know that it’s organised Jewry that are behind it. So if we’re relying upon common sense we may as well accept our destruction. The saddest thing is this could all end tomorrow if enough people marched on parliament – there are certainly enough people angry enough.

    I watch numerous youtube videos on the anti-white racism being pushed across the Jewish controlled media and college campuses in the US, they are pushing for white genocide practically non-stop. There’s a channel on youtube by a man covering the black on white crime epidemic over there which the media pretends doesn’t ever happen. You can watch it here if you can stomach it:

    For the record I didn’t watch this BBC program as I do not watch any of the main channels as they all push the agenda all of the time and it’s too sickening to watch. Isn’t one of the heads of the BBC a nephew of the Rothchilds? I read that somewhere. The BBC was captured decades ago.

    Another story some of you may not have heard of is they are going to build a holocaust memorial right next to parliament. The biggest lie in history is so pervasive that they now have the audacity and confidence in their power to build one of those things right next to parliament – if this doesn’t tell you how parliament is completely captured I don’t know what will. It has been designed by a black ‘British’ man just to add insult to injury. They’re rubbing our noses in it and loving every second of it. Is there a memorial to the sixty plus million white Christians murdered by Jewish Bolsheviks in the Soviet Union? I highly doubt it as that truth has been written out of history by the same gang.

    I don’t visit this site very often nowadays, or any other nationalist site, as it’s just too depressing.

    1. I’m sorry Folkvar for ending the article on such a sombre note, I didn’t intend the article to be depressing, it was written more as a counter to the Home Office assertion that anticipating a future race war and preparing for one’s self-defence in that eventuality is tantamount to terrorism. In writing this article I had in mind also the many naysayers from among the nationalist movement who also conflate the taking of defensive precautions in anticipation of a war that will inevitably be forced upon us, with the intention to instigate war, and who have attacked Western Spring for our involvement in organising the Legion Camps.
      It is my intention to publish any day now, a follow-up article which will provide a list of positive things for nationalists to do that are all perfectly legal and which will: 1) Help prepare our people for what will only be the inevitable if current government policy does not change; and 2) provide us with a practical way of eventually changing government policy before it’s too late, providing enough nationalists act upon my advice.
      As you say, “this could all end tomorrow if enough people marched on parliament”, but within the foreseeable future we all know that is not going to happen, and so we must pursue a different strategy.

      1. It’s not your article that’s depressing Max, it’s the hopelessness I feel about the position our people are in. It just gets worse with each passing year. White nations are completely captured by the Jews and most white people, even now at this late stage, are still completely clueless about this. I despair at the situation we’re in. Our people built this world, practically every invention you’ll find a white person (typically male) behind it, and yet we’re being attacked from all sides. We’re being destroyed by people that have constantly benefited from our achievements.

        1. I usually try not to leave my articles on a sombre note but on this occasion the ‘meat’ of my argument was done and not wanting to make the article unduly long, I finished it off rather too quickly and neglected to include an upbeat ending. Don’t worry, I do appreciate constructive criticism. I realise full well that I am not perfect and I do need feedback occasionally to keep me at my best.
          I don’t think the majority of our people are “still completely clueless”. At present I think they are doing their best to avoid acknowledging what is going on because they cannot see an acceptable way out of our predicament. People have come to realise that our parliamentary system is utterly corrupt and they make the mistake, just as some nationalists do, and just as the government does, of thinking that violent insurrection and terrorism is the only alternative. Our people regard the parliamentary option as hopeless and they rightly regard the terrorist option as impractical and unconscionable, and so they ignore politics, focus their minds on hedonism and do nothing for our cause.
          There is another alternative however, one that consists of militant community activism, combining entryism with targeted and directed civil disobedience. Such an approach will result in an ‘organic revolution’ in which the country goes through a gradual ‘bottom, up’ metamorphosis, gaining pace with time, like the rolling of a snowball. I will explain more of this in future articles, but for now direct as many people as you can to this website, if you haven’t done so yet apply to join us (I’m sorry that some people have had to wait a long time for us to get back to them) and maintain your optimism for the future.
          “The future is not set … there is no fate but what we make for ourselves” – Kyle Reese.

  9. I agree with much of your analysis about the current situation. To all extents and purposes Britain – and other White Western countries – are defeated and occupied nations. Our people have been bullied and brainwashed into accepting something they instinctively know to be wrong.

    We are being criminalised for not endorsing our own extinction, simply because we have no intention of either committing hara-kiri or acting like lemmings!

    No other political dissidents have been more vilified, demonised and dehumanised than White Nationalists. Neither Sinn Fein (when the IRA murder gang was in full swing), nor the Communist Party (when the Cold War was getting very hot), ever came close to getting this level of establishment bile and hatred.

    But that’s because they had protectors and sympathisers in high places.

    However, I think your historic parallel with the Gunpowder Plot is stretching it a bit far.

    I haven’t watched the TV play – a bit too gory for my tastes – but I have been following the BBC2’s Elizabeth 1’s Secret Agents, which is also currently running.

    The Gunpowder Plot occurred in 1605, just two years into the reign of the Stuart dynasty. Elizabeth 1 suffered no less that 14 assassination attempts during her reign (1558-1603), and Spanish invasion plans did not end with the defeat of the Armada in 1588, as there were three subsequent attempts (in 1596, 1597 & 1601). The first two were scattered by storms, the third was diverted for military action elsewhere.

    Queen Elizabeth was excommunicated by Pope Pius V in 1570, and English Catholics were encouraged to overthrow and replace her with a Catholic monarch. So it’s not really correct to say that, “their simple wish was to be left alone to live their lives and worship God in their chosen way”. Like other religious minorities that have settled in the UK since, their primary allegiance was to their own kind as well as to a hostile foreign state. Suffice is to say that the Supreme Pontiff had put them in a very dangerous position.

    The reaction of the Elizabethans and the Jacobeans was undoubtedly harsh, but that has to be set against the equally harsh measures taken by Catholic countries – ie the Inquisition, burnings and other terrible tortures. And, as far as I am aware, there was no attempt by the English state to impose a Protestant monarch on a sovereign Catholic country.

    That said, we still shouldn’t be fighting yesterday’s wars when far more important issues are at stake. And there is nothing more important than the survival of our own kind.

    1. Hi John, you make the mistake of assuming that I am taking sides in the centuries old Protestants verses Catholics feud, which I am not. I have no preference either way. Furthermore, neither am I claiming that the BBCs ‘Gunpowder’ drama is entirely accurate in its presentation of either side or of the struggle that took place between them.
      My point is that there is a close parallel between the repression and persecution of Catholics AS DEPICTED IN THE BBC DRAMA, and the repression and persecution of racial nationalists in Britain today. What we can be fairly sure of is that there was savage repression of the Catholics by the Protestants during the Jacobean period, and irrespective of whether or not that historic repression was justified, the repression of racial nationalists today is not.
      In your closing sentence, you state that we should not be fighting yesterday’s wars, and in that you are absolutely correct. I have both Scots and English ancestry, and both Protestant and Catholic ancestry, and my wife is of Irish decent and she too has both Protestant and Catholic ancestry and this is why I have no patience with the sectarian grievances that some people still harbour. In my opinion both Christian traditions are corrupt and in need of reform because they patently obviously, unwittingly or otherwise, serve the interests of our enemies and no longer serve the interests of our people.

  10. Like you, Max, I have no time for sectarian nonsense. To modern eyes, it beggars belief that Europe once bled whilst Whiteman killed Whiteman over an alien religion in a conflict that only non Europeans stood to benefit from.

    While Nationalists are not exactly being hung, drawn and quartered, or burnt at the stake for their beliefs – much to the disappointment of our political opponents, no doubt – I suppose one could argue that our demonisation is as bad as, or even worse than, that meted out to Catholics during Elizabethan/Jacobean times. It’s just done in a different way.

    However, the big difference between now and then is that the Catholics were not persecuted simply on account of following their beliefs; they were persecuted mainly because some of them were intent on overthrowing the government of the day through violent means (i.e. by blowing up Parliament), and that their primary allegiance was to Great Britain, but elsewhere. The Stuart state, therefore, had some justification in carrying out detentions, and responding in the way it did. I am not being pro-Protestant or anti-Catholic in saying this; I’m just stating the facts.

    What makes today’s situation very different is that the modern state has NO legitimate grounds to detain Nationalists, and therefore no justification. Nationalists are not planning to seize power, or to blow up the Houses of Parliament (or anyone, or anything else, as far as I am aware). They are not planning to bomb, or to shoot, or to kidnap, or to assassinate, or to run over, or to incite acts of violence against others. So far their only ‘crime’ has been to say things the ruling ‘liberal’ elite does not want to hear, and to defend themselves when attacked. But these, of course, are the most unpardonable offences in the minds of those who rule us.

    Nationalists are much more likely to be the victims of criminal acts than the perpetrators.

    Had the Gunpowder Plot succeeded it is estimated up to 30,000 Londoners could have been killed – along with the King, his family and the rest of the political elite. That would have put IRA and Islamist atrocities, and even many WW2 bombings in the shade. Civil war, anarchy and foreign invasion may well have followed – the Protestant reaction would have been ferocious – and the whole course of our subsequent history would have been very different.

    1. I am not familiar with the estimates of deaths that might have occurred had the Gunpowder Plot been successful, but I agree with the rest of what you say.

  11. Would it have been better had the plot succeeded?
    I think not, judging by the history of the RC church since then.

    Maybe the modern day parallel is the Jihadists trying to overthrow the Government to bring in their version of a religious state.
    There are others trying to do it by peaceful means.
    Their supporters claim to be persecuted too.

    1. I have not argued that the Gunpowder Plot should have succeeded, nor have I argued that either one of the Catholic or the Protestant causes was just. I have simply drawn comparison with the BBC depiction of Jacobean times, which may or may not be accurate.

  12. As somebody said “Common sense has now become a super power, as most of our politicians seem to lack it”.
    Our people need to exhibit Common Sense in spades, compared to the “Common Purpose” dished out by the mainstream establishment.

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